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08-05-2008 , 08:04 AM
The votes have been tallied, and we have our field of sixteen. Here they are, listed in seed-order, based on total number of votes received in the qualifying round.

1 - Darth Vader (David Prowse/James Earl Jones) Star Wars
2- The Joker (Heath Ledger) The Dark Knight
3 - Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) No Country For Old Men
4 - Hannibal Lecter (Anthony Hopkins) Silence of the Lambs
5 - John Doe (Kevin Spacey) - Seven
6 - Hans Gruber (Alan Rickman) Die Hard
7 - T-101 Terminator (Arnold Schwartzenegger) Terminator
8 - T-1000 (Robert Patrick) - Terminator 2: Judgement Day
9 - Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix) Gladiator
10 - Alonzo Harris (Dezel Washington) Training Day
11 - Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery
12 - The Butcher (Daniel Day Lewis) Gangs of New York
13 - Norman Bates (Tony Perkins) Psycho
14 - Keyser Soze (Kevin Spacey) The Usual Suspects
15 - Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) The Shining
16 - Nurse Ratched (Lousie Fletcher) One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

There were some sad misses, like HAL 9000 and Idi Amin, but such is life.

At this point I will set up two threads, each one with four match-ups. Following that we'll do a thread with the elite eights, and so on.

Here's your chance to bitch and moan about who is missing from this list, who on the list does not belong, etc.

Swede
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08-05-2008 , 10:26 AM
100% agreed on the near misses--especially Idi Amin.

I can understand how some people might not like HAL. I voted for him, but I can understand why others wouldn't. He's a computer in a movie that's borderline pretentious IMO.

But it sucks more that Idi Amin didn't make it. A+ character. A+ acting by Forest Witaker. I knew he wouldn't win, but I would have voted for him the whole way. Maybe not enough people saw the movie.
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08-05-2008 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by swede123
Here's your chance to bitch and moan about who is missing from this list, who on the list does not belong, etc.





Ray
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08-05-2008 , 10:46 AM
heath ledger is clearly too high on this list. if that movie were five years old he wouldn't have made it on the list, and if so, not nearly as high.

last king of scotland should have been number 2 at least. what a great fkn movie and an evil villain
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08-05-2008 , 11:10 AM
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08-05-2008 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by swede123
The votes have been tallied, and we have our field of sixteen. Here they are, listed in seed-order, based on total number of votes received in the qualifying round.

1 - Darth Vader (David Prowse/James Earl Jones) Star Wars
2- The Joker (Heath Ledger) The Dark Knight
3 - Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) No Country For Old Men
4 - Hannibal Lecter (Anthony Hopkins) Silence of the Lambs
5 - John Doe (Kevin Spacey) - Seven
6 - Hans Gruber (Alan Rickman) Die Hard
7 - T-101 Terminator (Arnold Schwartzenegger) Terminator
8 - T-1000 (Robert Patrick) - Terminator 2: Judgement Day
9 - Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix) Gladiator
10 - Alonzo Harris (Dezel Washington) Training Day
11 - Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery
12 - The Butcher (Daniel Day Lewis) Gangs of New York
13 - Norman Bates (Tony Perkins) Psycho
14 - Keyser Soze (Kevin Spacey) The Usual Suspects
15 - Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) The Shining
16 - Nurse Ratched (Lousie Fletcher) One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Pretty good all in all. Glad to see Gruber staged a bit of a late come back and made it up there.

I don't know how you can get so excited about Kevin Spacey in 7, when he was barely on the screen. Shouldn't a great movie villian have to have some screen presence, not just his actions? Then again I liked that movie way less than most.

Same with Gladiator. I actually thought Commodus was the best part of that movie. But I still think Longshanks is just more deliciously evil. Commodus was a ninny. I guess Longshanks needed to try to **** his sister to get up here.

And I didn't like GoNY much either. But again I know I'm in the minority. Bill the Butcher was a cartoon character. I just absolutely hated the way he did an about-face and started praising Liam Neeson's character the second he was dead. It just seemed completely ludicrous. That's not good villainry imo. And don't give me that he was being disingenuous. I'm 99% sure that's not what the movie was going for.

T-2, meh. Weeping for HAL.
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08-05-2008 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I don't know how you can get so excited about Kevin Spacey in 7, when he was barely on the screen. Shouldn't a great movie villian have to have some screen presence, not just his actions? Then again I liked that movie way less than most.
Yes, but he pwns the times he IS on screen imo. Also, his presence his felt the entire movie. The whole film is about his twisted sense of justice and righteousness. Def. deserving of his spot on the list imo.
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08-05-2008 , 12:04 PM
bottom 3 are rated too low imo
i agree that idi woulda been nice on here
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08-05-2008 , 12:30 PM
Points were awarded for the top four vote getters in each group; four points awarded for a 1st place vote, three for a 2nd place vote, two for a 3rd and one point for a 4th place vote.

Based on the overall point totals the sixteen finalists were chosen, regardless of the group they were in. This resulted in groups 1 and 4 producing five finalists each, with groups 2 and 3 only producing 3 each.

Interestingly enough, while people complained that group 2 was weaker than the other three, it still wasn't weak enough to propel Idi Amin to a top sixteen spot overall. In fact, in terms of overall points Idi Amin ranked around #20.

While I personally agree nurse Ratched came in pretty low I suppose I would attribute this to the age of the movie, and that group 4 was full of decently strong candidates which all received a decent amount of votes; Angel Eyes, Lumberg, Edward Longshanks, Ivan Drago, Alien monster. All of these were in the top third when looking at the entire field of 128.

One last point of note: only six nominees failed to receive a single vote, indicating that only a few OOTers were randomly throwing out names of villains in the nominations thread.

Swede
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08-05-2008 , 12:43 PM
it just sucks that nurse ratched and jack torrance have no shot since they have to go against darth/joker
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08-05-2008 , 12:46 PM
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I suspect this is a generational thing.



is way sweeter than a handful of these

"No. No, you can't get away. 'From Hell's heart... I stab at thee. For hate's sake I spit my last breath... at thee'."
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08-05-2008 , 01:01 PM
Oh yeah, for a comedy villian, you just can't do any better than Bill Murray in King Pin. Kind of a shame to see he didn't make it. Also I forget, did Barnes from Platoon ever get mentioned? He was pretty damn evil.
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08-05-2008 , 01:26 PM
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Oh yeah, for a comedy villian, you just can't do any better than Bill Murray in King Pin. Kind of a shame to see he didn't make it. Also I forget, did Barnes from Platoon ever get mentioned? He was pretty damn evil.
Big Ern followed by Lumberg were the two comedic villains with the most votes.

No love for Barnes from Platoon.

Swede
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08-05-2008 , 01:36 PM
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14 - Keyser Soze (Kevin Spacey) The Usual Suspects
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08-05-2008 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by psmoney
heath ledger is clearly too high on this list. if that movie were five years old he wouldn't have made it on the list, and if so, not nearly as high.

last king of scotland should have been number 2 at least. what a great fkn movie and an evil villain
Obviously his vote count is inflated due to how recent TDK was released, but I'm pretty sure in 5 or even 25 years he would still make the list.
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08-05-2008 , 01:45 PM
I really like Alonzo Harris.
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08-05-2008 , 01:48 PM
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True...but then again, if you haven't seen The Usual Suspects wtf are you doing trolling a thread about great movie villains?

Swede
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08-05-2008 , 01:58 PM
that's a good list.

suzzer, Spacey's "DETECTIIIIVE!" is all he needs to be on the list.
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08-05-2008 , 02:12 PM
can't believe Chet from Weird Science didn't make the list.
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08-05-2008 , 03:25 PM
Wow, cool thread. Here are my complaints. Any of the characters below should have beaten out the two terminators, the butcher, Hans and Javier Bardem. The terminators were robots, they were not evil. The butcher i felt was less evil and more greedy and power hungry. Die Hard was a great movie, but Hans was just a professional terrorist. Nothing too psychotic about that. Also, Javier was a hired hitman who normally collected from people who stole from the dealers I thought. He did not typically hurt innocents I thought, but maybe he should be more down on the list. I feel like he is so high because that movie is recent.

I am a little surprised Joe Pesci from Casino is no where on the list. His character was one of the best villains I have ever seen.

De Niro from Taxi Drive was a cool villain/anti-hero.

I would have liked to see Goldfinger up there.

Ed Norton in primal fear.

Magneto was kind of a badass.

Sam Jackson in unbreakable was psychotic.

Laurence Olivier as the Nazi dentist in maraton man was good.

Not Steve Buscemi, but the other bad guy in Fargo.

Glen Close in Fatal Attraction was scary.

Even John M. in Con Air was decent.

But in the end, how can it not be Darth Vader vs Hannibal the Cannibal?
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08-05-2008 , 07:22 PM
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But in the end, how can it not be Darth Vader vs Hannibal the Cannibal?
Because neither are really villians
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08-05-2008 , 07:23 PM
I completely forgot about the devil in The Exorcist
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08-05-2008 , 07:27 PM
Arnold is a villain in Terminator? Seriously?

*edit* n/m

Last edited by FlyingRat; 08-05-2008 at 07:28 PM. Reason: **** me, I was thinking of Terminator 2.
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