cross-posted from 4l, in hopes of saving people time & money if they're expecting something different.

I just saw them here in SLC Sunday night. If you liked the 2007 tour you'll love this, as it's pretty much note for note, light for light the same set, except about 20 minutes shorter.

I have no idea how bands don't die of boredom doing the exact same thing every night, or what the purpose of this tour is, other than to stay in live shape and make a few bucks.

Then again, I know plenty of people who had never seen them before or had not seen the '07 tour, and they all loved it. Even my buddy who had seen them twice in '07 & the night before in Denver (SLC was his 10th overall; it was my 6th) loved it, so what do I know. Buddy said the Denver show was even shorter, as you might expect headlining a big festival, plus I guess it got really windy.

I will say they sounded great, esp Danny, and props to their sound guys for doing the best they could in that dump they played in. Defo would be an awesome first time. But when you read an interview with Adam Jones a month ago and he's talking about covers & different arrangements and such, it was pretty disappointing. He did say they had no new material, but I was hoping they had at least a couple things they might want to give a try.

I understand high-profile bands feel obligated/pressured to play just the latest & greatest, esp in America, and for most Americans that IS all they want. But criminey, another friend of mine saw AC/DC last year. They played 5-6 songs off Black Ice and 11 or so other songs, all of which they played the first time we saw them, in 1990. Excuse me, I meant 1980!

Gotta give Metallica credit for playing the entire Puppets album on tour a couple years ago, and even the Stones, one of the worst setlist offenders, have been emptying the vault for a decade or so.

Obv 99% of people at concerts don't care about this crap, but Tool fans are pretty hardcore & knowledgeable, and I was hoping for much more, esp as I'd never seen a band before on this type of non-new album tour. I wouldn't have gone had I known, or at least waited til after to decide to buy T-shirt and posters, as I would've saved $90 on that anyway.

More discussion at Tool fansite.

I completely agree with you.

While I haven't seen this year's tour, the shows have been the same for a long time. I just can't get excited anyone. On one hand, they are amazing. But for someone who has seen them a bunch of times (I usually go 2x per tour), it's boring now. And it's not an exaggeration that it is note for note. Nothing has changed for years. I miss the days when Maynard gave a ****...

I think I've seen them about 4 or 5 times? and APC 2 times and I won't go to their shows anymore .... not that James MF Maynard Keenan doesn't own but even in 2007 it started to feel really repetitive.

I think even in 2004 it wasn' that great. First 2 Tool shows were unreal though. I mean APC wasn't mind blowing by any means but at least they got a little out of character when I saw them in TO .... Maynard did a couple of funny rants and at the end of the show the rest of the band played 1/2 of Oasis Supersonic and some Metallica riffs mixed in ..... actually was pretty f'n cool in the moment.

But hasn't Maynard always had a certain disdain for the hardcore fans of the band? They've never been known to go low on price for tickets or dvd's or boxsets or shirts, definitely going for top dollar. Loved his "if you've bought our album go buy 3 more copies" line from old shows.