The map is garbage (as a map of a flat world) precisely because it is a projection of a sphere not a plane that always requires a center and doesnt preserve areas (and a lot of other things that the real thing would preserve - because it would be only a rescaling away from the real thing) but has other properties like those found here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth...ant_projection

The problem with these properties though is that they only exist if this is a projection of a sphere in the way created in that link by selecting always some center point (it doesnt have to be the north pole, see the general case) that depends on the acceptance the original is a sphere in order to have then the properties observed!!! So by adopting that map for your flat earth you have already defeated the purpose of the theory to claim the world is flat. Now if that is not the ultimate insult to logic to create a projection (see i already called it a projection aware that it was one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_map_projections but should have been more elaborate in my argument which i complete though here and should have also taken the time to identify it, name it here earlier and link its properties) and then argue that its not one, its the real original thing instead (a rescaling away), opens the door to its own demise as a claim (the flatness). Written in that map is the message our world is not a plane disk!!! All you have to do is recover the correspondence and you have recreated the real thing.

Here is an entire book on projections worth having http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rojections.pdf

LOL at the video saying using the sun rays from clouds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crepuscular_rays) places the sun at the level of the clouds where the scattering actually happens. Superlol!!! What an argument! You know i can do the same in a small room placing the sun just outside in the balcony lol! Ever heard of a projection screen? Is the sun the bulb inside the machine now? What happens to a place 200 km west say where there are no longer such clouds or they are higher or lower? Another sun? How many are there? What is the sun, a local lamppost? You do realize that the sun is 700000km in radius and it only appears a small ball due to the big distance? In fact that is entirely evident by the fact in a lunar eclipse there is penumbra phase. Can you have that if the sun is real close and small? LOL. Oh the humanity!

Did you even remotely understand the black body solar radiation intensity argument i made earlier that becomes impossible if you require the sun to be a small thing a tiny distance away!!!?


You do realize that we bounce laser light from the moon and can measure how long it takes to get there and so find a way to measure the distance, a bit over 2.5 sec back and forth ie 384k km!!!

Well we can do the same from the sun!!! We can use solar neutrinos instead and account for the neutrino oscillation observed (the deficit of particular type of neutrinos observed on earth known as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_neutrino_problem ) only if the sun, the source of those neutrinos with the fusion in the center, is at the distance of 150 mil km. So there are many ways to recover the truth these days.


Someone must immediately sue youtube for millions of $ in potential social value damages having such videos without disclaimers placed above them that physicists and educators dont endorse such garbage. What if i produced a video that says hiv/aids is good for your health? And these morons think pornography or insulting religious figures is the problem that needs to be taken down. They do not begin to imagine how much bigger this problem is to create a world of fundametalist idiots throwing garbage to their kids and friends corrupting the education of a fraction of society and electing their own morons. If you do that in a ton of areas you create an idiocracy that can then be easily taken to any direction the power centers behind that movement want to take the system. You have weakened your democracy. You sir and the likes of you that create or promote these videos are international traitors of human intellect and eventually with the irresponsibility and complete disregard for science and logic and any honest intellectual pursuit you promote you will allow the catalysis, the transition of the system into a dystopian world at worse or make it harder for rational people to force society to wake up to its true failed priorities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_...arth_societies

And when it was replicated in a vacuum chamber they also faked that? You can do the experiment yourself and drop a full bottle and an empty bottle and get the same results.

Hang on, one minute you claim gravity isn't real, the next minute you are using it in a calculation to try and prove a different point??

How do flat earthers calculate the mass of the moon btw?

What a good thread this is, bumping for new eyes.

Wait until the GOP sees this thread...

This is one of my favorite threads.

it really was the ultimate troll by OP.

I'm waiting for the Barbie and Ken flat earth expedition with the snap-on ice wall.

I find their explanation for sunsets to be very weak.

Ruh roh;
Nasa publishes about 8.4k photographs from its moon missions. Some photoshoppers made some serious dough here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projec...57658592613769

autoCAD proof of flat earth

WTH?

Only through the first video, but the record for a helicopter flight is only around 8 miles high, so who cares about how some helicopter would have to tilt some theoretical 100 or 200 mile high flight to use his shortcut? His shortcut for keeping a helicopter level at low altitudes works because the change in angle of the helicopter is so slight that it's almost imperceptible. Obviously that wouldn't work at significantly higher altitudes.

Also, what's he talking about with regards to the airplane horizon indicator? Does he think it works like his visual compass technique, i.e. the plane has to point directly at the horizon to be level? He even calls it the "artificial horizon", meaning the indicator has been adjusted to correct for the visual horizon being lower the higher you go.

Plus, the plane isn't going to fly directly at the horizon. If it does, then in his example after they fly 218 miles they're going to crash into the ground! So his example of the 3.whatever degree angle should really be cut in half. I doubt anyone would notice a change in attitude of 1.5 degrees, even if this was the way it worked (it isn't).



So dumb

Lol don't even try to figure it out. There's not a lot of reason going on in any of these arguments, it'll just drive you insane

LOL at video 2 so far. He's still drawing lines from the airplane that run tangent to the earth (stop crashing so many planes dude). This simple step shows that he has no idea what he's talking about. More importantly he doesn't understand that the gyroscope is constantly running parallel to the surface of the earth that the plane is currently above. Gravity is keeping the plane flying at the same height.

My favorite video was where they were saying if the earth were rotating we would not be able to land a plane because the earth would be moving too fast for the plane to land on and it would be destroyed. Complete with drawings and diagrams, of course.

And he has a third video too...more junk.

But the real question is:

If a plane is on a treadmill where the treadmill moves backward at exactly the same speed as the plane's wheels are spinning forward, will the plane take off?

Did OP get banned for holocaust denying in Politics?

LOL

haha, yep

whats weird is that these people are just legit crazy.

they dont get tons of video views on youtube, theres no end game, its just straight up idiocy like a crazed religious zealot.

it's strange too because they don't have any unfiying theory either, and many of their views are contradictory. the funniest ones are the ones that try to deny trigonometry.

a possible insight into why these idiots think the way they do:

http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/03...e-you-missing/

It's turtles all the way down, of course.