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05-11-2014 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by drewwwy
I do want to save money but I agree with most that it's probably best to go with something that's going to last me a while, where I don't have to go out and replace it in a couple months. I don't mine buying extra parts but starting all over again would be a drag. I do want something that's solid and built to last...still haven't made up my mine yet.

I am more than thankful for all your guys help!
good luck
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05-11-2014 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyJones
the last one I got I used for 6 months then reluctantly sold it
to a beginning friend who has used it for months since. I only bought the kit with the clearo so I don't have personal experience with the evod kit but a friend of mine bought one 2 months ago and then bought more kits for himself and girlfriend. But hey, if you want to spend $50 to $100 to get started vaping, knock yourself out, its a free market, at least for now.
Someone coming off the cigs are spending on average $50/week as it is, and how much did you spend replacing those CE5s every week?

Just a cursory not really trying glance at eBay. I was able to find a Kanger 1000mAh battery w/ USB charger and Evod2 w/ 5 coils for under $30. The Evod 2 uses the same coils as the Aerotank and Protank 3.

What works for you is great and I certainly don't dismiss it. I know too many people who told me that vaping sucks, but it never fails that the only thing they've tried is a terrible setup. It is nice that this one is at least VV, but I don't have much faith in it. One of my friends has the Vision Spinner and there is no way that thing vapes at 4.8V.

With that said, if people are honestly suggesting to pay $100 to get started and end up with a few cheap VV batteries, that is a crappy deal when things like the MVP w/ iClear 30S are available for $40 these days. Add in some juice and you are spending $50, but still.
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05-11-2014 , 10:57 PM
for a high quality vaping experience, here is my favorite, http://www.vaporbeast.com/innokin-sv...stainless.html just $98, add batteries http://www.vaporbeast.com/efest-imr-...0a-2-pack.html $23 and a charger http://www.vaporbeast.com/efest-soda-charger-black.html $16.50 and all you will need is juice. For a few hundred dollars you and your mate will not only have great vape but you can impress your friends.

You can probably get a half dozen people tell you their favorite and that someone else's recommendation is crap but you don't seem to be in any hurry so I'm sure you can sort it all out. If time is not of the essence then you can order the same genuine stuff from fastech, save about 30 to 50 percent and be ready to vape in 30 to 40 days.
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05-11-2014 , 11:01 PM
I know you are being sarcastic, but those prices are terrible (unless you are trying to affiliate with that as well)

If it mattered at all, I did, in essence, agree with you.
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05-11-2014 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I know you are being sarcastic, but those prices are terrible (unless you are trying to affiliate with that as well)

If it mattered at all, I did, in essence, agree with you.
I was not being sarcastic. Innokin is not a knock off.Those prices are not bad, certainly not terrible, and of course you can find or wait for a sale and maybe save 20% or more. For safety's sake I wouldn't suggest cheaping out on the batteries or charger. I'm sure it would appreciated if you would do the legwork and found a better price. I would however buy all those items from fastech though because the savings is worth the wait, to me.

BTW, Vapor beast doesn't even have a referral program and I am not an affiliate of anyone. However, i am a loyal vapor beast customer.
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05-12-2014 , 12:42 AM
I just recently started vaping, I haven't smoked a cigarette in 10 days. Does anyone know of weed flavored juice that they would suggest. I found some online and ordered it but when it came in it was disgusting.

Also has anyone vaped with additives like caffein or valerian root? How is this experience?
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05-12-2014 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GetMoney984
I just recently started vaping, I haven't smoked a cigarette in 10 days. Does anyone know of weed flavored juice that they would suggest. I found some online and ordered it but when it came in it was disgusting.

Also has anyone vaped with additives like caffein or valerian root? How is this experience?
Wait, you want weed flavored juice without THC or whatever gets you high in it?!?!? Why would you want that? I don't smoke weed that often but I can't understand wanting JUST the flavor without any of the other benefits.
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05-12-2014 , 01:08 AM
Im on probation for selling pot. Miss it to death but its gonna be another 2 years before I can smoke it. I miss that taste.
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05-12-2014 , 01:10 AM
I'm vaping kool aid flavor as we speak.
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05-12-2014 , 01:42 AM
You should get some purple drank flavor too, it's awesome! Stevieeastbounndanddown. GIF.
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05-12-2014 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by IndyJones
I was not being sarcastic. Innokin is not a knock off.Those prices are not bad, certainly not terrible, and of course you can find or wait for a sale and maybe save 20% or more. For safety's sake I wouldn't suggest cheaping out on the batteries or charger. I'm sure it would appreciated if you would do the legwork and found a better price. I would however buy all those items from fastech though because the savings is worth the wait, to me.

BTW, Vapor beast doesn't even have a referral program and I am not an affiliate of anyone. However, i am a loyal vapor beast customer.
You mentioned something about referral points upthread. Not an affiliate, I guess. Sorry.

Those prices are absolutely horrendous. One thing you really don't need is the extra cap for the 18350.

I could buy the device sans 18650 cap for SVD for $40. iClear for $12, Efest or Panasonic batteries for $20, and a Soda Charger for $12. That is $84.

If you want to get the full starter kit you linked, you can easily find that for $68, which is $30 less than that site. Add in the batteries and charger, and you are looking at $90 for everything.

I own an SVD, and yes, I overpaid a little bit, but not to this extreme.
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05-12-2014 , 06:02 AM
burning and vaporizing are two very different things. There are hundreds of tobacco flavors out there but none of them taste a whole lot like smoking a cigarette or cigar unless you were accustomed to eating them or drinking them in tea. the same goes for the taste of any burning matter.

you will have a hard time finding the pre-made eliquids you are looking for. Some makers of flavorings do sell a mary jane flavor which taste a little like the old school mexican herb. Without going into the intricacies of making eliquid, you could simply add a few drops at a time to some unflavored or very nuetral tasting eliquid.

I make an eliquid with the mary jane, some sweet leaf to similate columbian and skunk to similate hydro. A lot of people like it but few people "get it". I use it often but I rarely use it as an all day vape. It does mix well with fruit and tobacco flavors.
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05-12-2014 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
You mentioned something about referral points upthread. Not an affiliate, I guess. Sorry.

Those prices are absolutely horrendous. One thing you really don't need is the extra cap for the 18350.

I could buy the device sans 18650 cap for SVD for $40. iClear for $12, Efest or Panasonic batteries for $20, and a Soda Charger for $12. That is $84.

If you want to get the full starter kit you linked, you can easily find that for $68, which is $30 less than that site. Add in the batteries and charger, and you are looking at $90 for everything.

I own an SVD, and yes, I overpaid a little bit, but not to this extreme.
Those prices would be more credible and useful if you actually provided the links. Also, you left out the extra iclear and 3 extra heads so add $20 for that and you are at $110, exactly 20% off the prices I gave, as I estimate could be saved if you find the right sales. Again, you save even more if you don't mind waiting for it to come from overseas.

I wouldn't have need for the 18350 adapter either but some who like very compact devices would. Mine rarely leaves my vaping station so portability is not so important to me. I use mine mostly with 18500 batts because it makes it shorter and lighter and I still usually change the batt only once a day. You would probably have to change batts more than once a day with the 18350 configuration.

For years I enjoyed the fixed and variable voltage devices, which are so much lighter and smaller, before using variable wattage, which tends to spoil you for anything else.
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05-13-2014 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Mainfield
Have you guys gotten any side affects? I Vaped for 8 months until I started getting short of breath a month ago. I stopped vaping and it has slowly gone away, I'm unsure if it's a chest cold that hung on, or some reaction to vaping. It happened with the same juices I've been using for a while.
I"m just catching up on the thread, sorry if already posted but do you mind saying what juice you were vaping?

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Originally Posted by bobhalford
I haven't noticed anything. However, since I started vaping, I've had terrible problems with my teeth and have had numerous cavities filled. My dentist doesn't understand it, since I don't consume a lot of sweets and floss and brush every day. I've thought that it may have something to do with the vaping.

Did anyone see the news today: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101639987

The study says it's the tank systems that are unhealthy. I imagine that includes all the RBA setups, or maybe it's just the high voltage vaping, I don't know.
Interesting about your teeth, just curious were you vaping cinnamon flavors? I've heard reports of people getting bad cavities with some of them, I've noticed my teeth can get sensitive vaping some juices (always the super sweet ones and it has me wondering about various sweeteners used)

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Originally Posted by dotbum
do you feel qualified to answer that question definitively?

serious question, just don't think it should be brushed over without serious consideration.

also, I don't smoke my house.
The study is confirmed bs and it's a blatant attempt to discredit non-cigalike models.

I'm not qualified personally but two guys posted very interesting info on this thread, one a cancer biologist and the other a chemist, the chemist was dumbfounded by their results that suggested VG is safer as formaldehyde levels were far lower with tests using pure VG.

Cliffs - there have been no credible studies conducted with PG that show worrying levels of formaldehyde and the health concerns are highly debatable anyway. We've known about the trace amounts for a long time now.

You can read the whole thread here but the two key posts are here and here
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05-13-2014 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyJones
Those prices would be more credible and useful if you actually provided the links. Also, you left out the extra iclear and 3 extra heads so add $20 for that and you are at $110, exactly 20% off the prices I gave, as I estimate could be saved if you find the right sales. Again, you save even more if you don't mind waiting for it to come from overseas.
I said in the quoted that you can get "everything," meaning the entire starter kit you linked + Efest and Soda charger for $90.

I tend to buy my devices on eBay and that is where I found these prices. I could probably go lower if I took a few extra minutes.
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05-13-2014 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
So, I got my itaste svd from fasttech about a week ago. Out of the box, I found it very uncomfortable with the oddly placed buttons, and the very sharp edges on the machined parts. The sharp edges were easy enough to round, but the button placement still didn't match what was comfortable for me. I have mutant big hands, so that might be part of the problem.

I could have forgiven this, but after only a week my fire button is only responding intermittently. The device randomly shuts itself off mid vape, requiring another 3 press to turn it on. It also makes an odd buzzing noise when it fires.
I got the svd working again. I put into a ziploc baggie with a bunch of 99% isopropyl alcohol, then hammered on the buttons for awhile while it was submerged to clean off the contacts.

After letting it dry a few days, it seems to be working ok again. I must have gotten juice inside somehow.
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05-13-2014 , 11:36 PM
Nice, glad you got it working.

Strangely enough, I haven't had any problems since I stopped using my iclear 16's.
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05-14-2014 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I said in the quoted that you can get "everything," meaning the entire starter kit you linked + Efest and Soda charger for $90.

I tend to buy my devices on eBay and that is where I found these prices. I could probably go lower if I took a few extra minutes.
I don't buy from ebay so maybe that is why you cannot provide links. I certainly would not buy an 18650 battery except a reputable brand from a reputable vendor. There are too many counterfeit and rebuilt batteries being sold out there to trust a random vendor and when using a mod battery safety is paramount.
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05-14-2014 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MisoHoneySoup
I"m just catching up on the thread, sorry if already posted but do you mind saying what juice you were vaping?



Interesting about your teeth, just curious were you vaping cinnamon flavors? I've heard reports of people getting bad cavities with some of them, I've noticed my teeth can get sensitive vaping some juices (always the super sweet ones and it has me wondering about various sweeteners used)



The study is confirmed bs and it's a blatant attempt to discredit non-cigalike models.

I'm not qualified personally but two guys posted very interesting info on this thread, one a cancer biologist and the other a chemist, the chemist was dumbfounded by their results that suggested VG is safer as formaldehyde levels were far lower with tests using pure VG.

Cliffs - there have been no credible studies conducted with PG that show worrying levels of formaldehyde and the health concerns are highly debatable anyway. We've known about the trace amounts for a long time now.

You can read the whole thread here but the two key posts are here and here
those posts have me more concerned than I was before
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05-14-2014 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyJones
I don't buy from ebay so maybe that is why you cannot provide links.
I choose not to provide links. There is no real reason for it.

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I certainly would not buy an 18650 battery except a reputable brand from a reputable vendor.
Can you please define what you mean by reputable? Are they sending you the MSDS, the factory form, and the lab test results?

eBay and Amazon are surprisingly good at removing counterfeit product from their sites. Amazon is actually bit overkill, but eBay is pretty on top of it. They both take customer complaints very seriously, shut down listings, and often nuke seller accounts. What recourse or oversight is on a website?

And if it matters, all of the "reputable" websites also sell on eBay and Amazon, and often at a much lower price. In other words, you'd be buying the same product from the same vendor for 20% less.

Since when is a Magneto worth $70? And their sorting by "best deal" is terrible.

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There are too many counterfeit and rebuilt batteries being sold out there to trust a random vendor and when using a mod battery safety is paramount.
Then why are you okay to tell people to buy counterfeit and unbranded eGo batteries?

Do you have any idea what would happen if one of those batteries blew up in your hand or while charging? I wouldn't trust the rigor on a cheap device like this, and certainly not one that goes near my face. The quality of the battery is important whether you are dodging fake Efests or knock-off Joyetechs.
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05-15-2014 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dotbum
those posts have me more concerned than I was before
Haha. I wouldn't worry about the formaldehyde but the post on nicotine certainly raised an eyebrow alright. I'll be following developments there.

Good job my kayfun is due to land soon (fasttech setting new standards, 4 weeks and still waiting). That should help me move down to 6mg and I'll probably go lower on my next batch of DIY juice.


Just to add Roger's quoted post above, it's possible you suffered a mild allergic reaction to a certain chemical in whatever flavoring used. I've experienced this before, after vaping my lungs would feel tight and congested with some of them. Just make a note and avoid them in future and you should be fine, also experiment with VG and PG, PG might also be the culprit.
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05-16-2014 , 02:39 AM
I rebuilt the Nautilus coil. Not bad but I should try to build another coil. Really is easy to do.

Rip Trippers had his reading at 1.6 Ohm, but mine is reading a 1.0 Ohm. The SVD still fires, which is surprising. I'm just glad I got something reading on the first try.
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05-17-2014 , 08:41 AM
What's the thing to do now when traveling on planes? Going international with several changes so will be going through security a lot.
Do you put the liquid bottles in a plastic bag and they're OK to bring? Would you go with an empty tank? Or do they not like either.
Obviously putting most of my stuff in the regular baggage but nice to bring a tank and a couple batteries along for the waits and so on (+ use in the bathroom)
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05-17-2014 , 12:52 PM
Last time I flew I had an SVD and a tank full of juice and I put the whole thing in a plastic bag and they let me through without asking any questions. Not sure if it's different for intl flights.
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05-17-2014 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I choose not to provide links. There is no real reason for it.



Can you please define what you mean by reputable? Are they sending you the MSDS, the factory form, and the lab test results?





Then why are you okay to tell people to buy counterfeit and unbranded eGo batteries?

The quality of the battery is important whether you are dodging fake Efests or knock-off Joyetechs.
What I call reputable is a vendor which has filled multiple orders for me with quality merchandise. As a rule, a vendor who participates in e-cigaretteforum.com with their approval is most likely to be reputable. The vendors I mentioned meet both of those criteria.

You obviously were not listening or were disbelieving when I said on multiple occassions that my friends and I have purchased many of these kits and found them to be of sound quality and long lasting. I was trying to help a poster by suggesting kits much better than anyone else can suggest for at least two or three times the price. Your comments are wholely unhelpful and no doubt have discouraged someone who was reaching out for help to quit smoking. Are you proud of yourself? you shouldn't be.
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