this whole time watching this season i am just hoping it's not miguel prado setting dexter up the entire time, because it will be the most obvious and cliche thing ever.

if that doesn't happen i'm satisfied. if it does i abandon the show.

Am I crazy or is this quite wrong? I seem to remember Rudy being in at least 3 episodes before we find out...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's wrong. IMDb says Rudy first showed up in the fifth episode, and I thought it was even earlier than that. I'm too lazy to go back and check, but there's no way he debuted in the seventh episode. Also, regardless of when he first showed up, he was clearly a "major" character (even before we knew he was the killer) since he was dating the friggin' lead character's sister.

actually, you're right he wasn't "technically" revealed to be the killer for a few episodes

i suspected it was him when i first watched it, mostly due to his interest in debra and prosthetics

this is largely irrelevant to my point however


i'm getting the feeling from the responses that this isn't the "thinking mans" dexter thread, my tenure here might be over soon

meh, it is what is it, if you have insightful commentary on Dexter I'm sure someone on 2+2 will connect with it. I know I will. Don't lose hope!

Damn, I thought I was paying attention....

does anyone have a place to watch online that has the video up around the same time that the torrent is posted?

I'm a little afraid that this might be the direction that this season is going. Miguel could very well know more about dexter's past given his assumption that dexter would take care of the trash, but I still think it's unlikely given their history unless Miguel discovered it after his brothers murder and looking into why dexter was doing extra searching on the case.

I don't like the skinner at all, because no matter who it ends up being I think I'm going to end up upset about it. I think it's pretty unlikely to be a character that hasn't been introduced yet, which means that whoever it is it's going to be a cliche of sorts.

Tonights episode was pretty good imo. It brought up dexters ethics wrt if he should kill the cancer lady, and if he should kill the defense lawyer. It's starting to show that he has a pretty good grasp on when life should be taken and when it shouldn't instead of just following harry's code. The obvious love life of deb with the informant is kinda corny but anyone could see that coming for a while.

I really hope that miguel and dexter end up working together to try and kill the skinner before the cops can find him, but I think this is just wishfull thinking.....unless miguel just happens to be the skinner (which I think is not the case).

I thought that tonights episode was pretty boring (everyone should have known who dexter will/wont kill by now). The least they could do is make Laguardia and the defender be lesbians.

Wow didn't think he'd kill Camilla and still be able to come off as a likable protagonist but they pulled it off. IMO when they list Jimmy Smiths as a "guest star" in the credits, they're forecasting Dexter's going to end up offing him.

I have to agree. This season has been ok, but nowhere near the level of intensity of the first 2. There was really 0 drama tonight since it was pretty clear he was killing Camilla and not killing the lawyer. Still hoping they pull something awesome out of the bag for the end of the season tho. Starting to think we have met the skinner already and that would be disappointing.

Pretty meh episode. Not a lot of new information.

Showing Prado freak out and tell Dexter "**** YOU" was good, shows some instability. Prado wanting to use his pet killer to settle personal scores was good as well. I like Prado and Dexter not being on the same page on all things.

I hated the scene with the IA cop telling Debra that because of her a guy who cuts corners and got a cop killed gets to go free.....WTF she never mentioned this to Deb before, she just tried to strong arm her.

I loved that Dexter's guest list included "Donut guy" Shows that Dexter is still socially ******ed and doesn't really fit in...yet.

I think there is still a chance that Prado is the skinner. His wife complained about Prado being gone every night, saying he is out with Dexter....

odds on dexter telling miguel what he did to his brother?

should make for a SICK scene, imo.

Very predictable episode. The mercy kill, the refusal to kill the lawyer, Deb hooking up with the CI; everything (except Prado's r=suggestion of killing the lawyer), was obvious a mile away.

Also I don't care about Angel and his police chick, though Masuka's outrage at the Chinese killer was pretty good.

Finally, the dialogue/acting/everything of the scene where Deb and the CI hook up was horrid -- "For you... I will be your bait... For you" or whatever bull**** line he had was roll-eyes-horrible.

Not a good ep overall, things need to pick up.

Prediction (based on preview):

this is coming from someone who has loved this show since I first saw it a couple eps into the first season

I really didn't think they could possibly add another person into the show that could annoy me as much as Deb did, but that IA agent telling Deb it was her fault that Quinn wasn't gonna get investigated made me want to destroy my television. For the entire season so far we've had to watch that dumb bitch tail Deb, not only being as vague as she could possibly be til the very end, but being a standoffish bitch at every meeting the two had. If Deb is never gonna get offed (sigh) I sure hope that this bitch does, and asap

Prado is too much of a pussy to be the skinner guy imo I dont think he has gotten his hands dirty yet (actual killing, not sending people to jail).

Ugh, just awful in every way. This ep was so incredibly predictable and boring, and the acting was terrible (Michael C. Hall is excellent every week, but the supporting cast is just full of laughably bad actors). I really hope they bring back the intensity from a few episodes ago, as the plot is really falling fast. I still love the show, but we need a little more killing and a lot less Deb.

(Masuka pwns, though.)

Yeh, Deb had that twice, with the mother and the IA agent. She should know how to say "actually, it was the skinner/your fault", she does interrogations!

what did camilla say at the end there when dex told her he off'd his brother?

Sounded like:
to me.

definitely that

thanks

I agree that it will be SUPER lame if the skinner is Quinn or Prado. Honestly I hope that both of them wind up being good guys despite their sketchiness, but I think the fact Smits is a guest star, and also that he was so willing to kill the defense attorney, means that it is inevitable that he will die, either at the hands of Dexter or someone else. Perhaps it will be a heroic death, and I'll be wrong that he's a bad guy.

The whole thing about the skinner working in the trees - weren't there two Hispanic guys working in trees at the scene of the first skinner crime scene that Deb talked to? Maybe one of them is the guy, or maybe it's a team of Latino guys working for Prado. I would assume the angle of Freebo owing the Prados money is going to play into this big time.

I also think if we can figure out why the skinner would want to remove the tattoos - if there is in fact a reason besides just having a trophy - then we can figure out who the skinner is.

lol they are definitely dyking it out at some point they seem to be hinting at it quite a bit.

i absolutely hated the seen between the IA and Deb, not surprisingly because i've hated every scene they've done. i don't think miguel is the skinner but he's gonna have some other bad twist (sil saying he's lying to her, staying out late, etc...prob just going to be something stupid and they used that as a false lead) i do think quinn will end up doing something really good so i'm kinda pumped for that. i actually kinda liked this ep but at the same time agree with most of the negative comments on it, but while watching it i still couldn't help but think "this is really good tv"