No instacart out there? I have not been to a grocery store in 9 months, get regular deliveries.

Wishing you a speedy recovery Shuffle.

You are done in this thread. Beat it.

Shuffle - how crowded was the grocery store and how long were you in there? Do you generally wipe down your groceries or wash your hands after putting them away?

Where is this grocery store in LA? Are we talking 100s of people in the store?

The new strain has just been detected in LA so it seems doubtful you got it.

Hope your recovery is swift.

I go to the store at 6 or 7am when it's empty.
One day last week I went in and they only had one check out line and 15+ in line.
I turned around and left and came back the next morning.

It's my week off so i'm not hearing any watercooler talk. Seems to me that the guy wanted people to die. Seems like some people are cheering for maximum carnage (some posters itt, for example).

I know I’m just wasting my time, but I’ll respond anyways...

Just because there are lockdowns or restrictions doesn’t mean the government wants to do it. I’ve never understood that logic. They’re doing it because they are being told by medical professionals it’s the right thing to do based on current data. What incentive do they have for lockdowns? I’d love to hear it.

I ask the non-mask wearers something similar. What’s the downside? They struggle with giving much more than “don’t tread on me!”

Additionally, the vaccine is not a government vaccine. While the government gave money towards creation and the government is approving them, the government didn’t develop them. They were developed by private pharma. You understand that, right?

I go into a store like once a month. My wife goes to a Target or Lowe's each week. But never a grocery store, we always do curbside pickup.

Has anyone heard anything about budesonide.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020...-for-covid-19/

It is the medicine in the breathing treatment that kid's use for asthma. This guy I know used it on himself and his wife when they had COVID last week and it helped clear up the trouble breathing the wife was having. Not at all surprised his family got it, they went to Disney World Thanksgiving weekend.

Our sequencing is very infrequent and far behind the spread. It is quite possible that this mutation is anywhere and just hasn’t been identified yet.

Condolences 5 south.
Get well soon Shuffle.

I've recently moved from curbside pickup to grocery delivery. Sucks to hear of someone getting it from the grocery store. If asked I would have thought it very difficult to catch it there as you're really not around any one person for more than a few seconds.

i worry about grocery stores because of shared air. yes, we are not around individuals too long, but the air of everyone in the store stays in the building.

workers in stores get sick. i'd guess they don't get from staying close to someone for a long time, but by breathing the air that is inside the building.

and i don't understand why people are so quick to call instacart/grocery delivery a solution. it's not a solution for the poor worker who has to go into the store and get the groceries.

i ordered grocery delivery once, but i felt so awful i couldn't deal with it. i was paying someone to risk his health for me just because he was desperate for money???

I don't know how old you are but you may want to go in to at least get your oxygen saturation level read.
Waiting too long to see a doctor is pretty bad.

shuffle,

you probably know this already, but lying on your stomach should make for much easier breathing than lying on your back

Very sorry about your father, 5 south.

Hope you recover soonest, Shuffle.

My special lady friend is a nursing home administrator. They're getting the Moderna vaccine on Monday. 90% of the residents have agreed to be vaccinated. In order to get all of the staff to be vaccinated the company is giving all employees a $50 gift card when they get their vaccine. Only 1/3rd of the staff have agreed to be vaccinated.

Let the world burn. We are now past our prime. Stupidity is the norm.

I guess that just means reasonable people can get vaccinated quicker. **** em

Breaking containment to pass along my condolences ...

and to wish you a speedy recovery.

Precisely why I go first thing in the morning.

More Than 800 SoCal Supermarket Workers Test Positive For COVID-19

I've been thinking grocery stores were relatively safe for shoppers, since you didn't hear much about workers getting it - which is why I had all those questions for Shuffle. But this just came out.

I'm glad I'm in an area of LA that isn't very hard hit at the moment. But I need to switch to delivery or curb side pickup all the time I guess. Yay there goes my only human contact on most weeks.

Robert M Wachter, Chair of the Dept of Medicine at UCSF, confirms in this thread that a new variant is at large in the US.



It may have been there since October and it may be the B117 strain identified in the UK, though this is not yet known.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-since-october

A British study at Imperial College London finds that B117 is more transmissible by a 'huge' and dangerous margin.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55507012

Bob Wachter concludes that delaying the second vaccine shot to get the first jab to more people sooner, as the UK is doing, is the correct policy.

Pfizer have for some reason questioned that policy, but the Oxford team and other vaccinologists say that, if anything, vaccines improve in effectiveness with a months-long delay before the second shot.



So things are bad and are going to get worse for a few weeks, but we do have the vaccines and things should get better by spring.

edit: lolme. fell for one of filthy's traps. i thought i was better than that, lol.

That's just bizarre mass-hysterical and anti-social stupidity. This never happened during the great vaccination programmes that eradicated polio, smallpox and TB (remember those ancient curses we no longer have to worry about?). We've always known that humankind is, fundamentally, as mad as a bloody hatter, but it's depressing all the same.