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12-04-2020 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Sorry to hear about that 5 south. Hope your dad gets well soon.
Appreciate it. We all know the vent is the last thing you want to hear but he's responded well to it so far.

This is small town Oregon. The nurses and dr's have been amazing with communication and taking the time to talk to us kids multiple times a day but now they're getting quite busy with lots of cases walking in the door.
5-7 days after Thanksgiving. Surely just a coincidence.... The only silver lining I guess is dad got it before so his bed is secured.
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12-04-2020 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Stunning numbers and probably going to get much worse. Winter is going to be something.



Don't think that's really true. USA is 11th in deaths/capita. Our 3k death day yesterday is ldo horrible but Italy had 993 deaths (equivalent of 6k). While i guess it's true that we're suffering more than some other countries, much of the western world seems to be right there with us.
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Like the USA is at 85 deaths/100k, the EU as a whole is at 79/100k, and the UK is at 89/100k.
usa is 11th in deaths per capita, but if you add up all the deaths in the top 10, usa has more than all the top 10 combined lol

and eu is getting rocked almost as bad as usa like you said. but eu is the second worse spot in the world. and idk how much of a coincidence it is that usa and eu are the leaders of capitalism.

but yeah, italy and spain have 961 and 985 deaths per million. while usa has 854. but also remember that italy and spain got hit with it before usa. usa had plenty of warning and time to react, but didn't.

uk has 891 and also had time to react, and didn't. so uk ****ed it up awfully too.

but we are talking about the countries doing the worst here. usa is ldo on the list of countries doing the worst, if it's not on the very top of the list.

i mean the white house is throwing indoor holiday parties right now! president was saying how it was going to go away by easter, and don't test people. cdc said not to wear masks, etc
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12-04-2020 , 01:24 PM
DateNew CasesHospitalizationsDeaths7 Day
Nov 0173,83247,531395815
Nov 0282,02448,557491828
Nov 0386,63250,4261064849
Nov 04103,25252,0861117859
Nov 05116,38953,3751146875
Nov 06125,71554,8511173907
Nov 07128,39255,9021112928
Nov 08109,66856,811495943
Nov 09119,40959,301577955
Nov 10131,11462,0621360997
Nov 11144,47765,45815601060
Nov 12153,12967,09710861052
Nov 13170,28868,50012981070
Nov 14163,42869,49813311101
Nov 15144,38870,1116871128
Nov 16148,74973,2536191134
Nov 17155,96376,96515531162
Nov 18163,89679,41018641205
Nov 19182,66380,69819671331
Nov 20192,64682,17818841415
Nov 21178,20783,22715061440
Nov 22150,01583,8708951470
Nov 23150,89085,8709551518
Nov 24166,92988,08020661591
Nov 25182,43789,95422881652
Nov 26125,06890,48113291560
Nov 27194,80489,83413791488
Nov 28153,13491,66512321449
Nov 29135,17293,2658031436
Nov 30147,00496,03911361462
Dec 01176,61698,69124731520
Dec 02195,695100,22627331584
Dec 03210,161100,66727061708
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12-04-2020 , 01:42 PM
Deaths should start to go down at some point as we should start to run out of good death candidates.
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12-04-2020 , 02:24 PM
My 94 yo grandma was reasonably healthy until she got Covid, then died 3 weeks later. On her death certificate, her cause of death was listed as "failure to thrive" and secondarily as "dementia".

That sort of handywork should keep Covid deaths down too.
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12-04-2020 , 02:47 PM
I'm sorry about your grandma.

It is an interesting anecdote to see as all I've ever heard was the opposite.

I'm pretty sure there are still a non-insignificant number of people today that believe all these covid deaths are from motorcycle accidents and it's a deep state conspiracy.

The human mind is amazing.
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12-04-2020 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
The human mind is gullible.
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12-04-2020 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hansmolman
I saw Little Donkey (a great restaurant in Cambridge) is going into voluntary hibernation. There is now a gofundme page to help them take care of their employees during this time.

It is a national embarrassment that restaurants have to take to the internet to beg for help. It make me so angry I could spit!

Apparently none of our politicians ever bussed a table, because they don’t seem to give one damn about one of the biggest industries in the country.

Huge respect to little Donkey and any other restaurants making this hard decision. Sorry that the government is happy to have you panhandle online.
In the UK, there's the 'furlough' scheme, under which the government covers most of the wages of laid-off workers. I suppose a proportion of Americans would consider that 'evil and socialist' or something.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...ployed-support
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12-04-2020 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by knivesout
My 94 yo grandma was reasonably healthy until she got Covid, then died 3 weeks later. On her death certificate, her cause of death was listed as "failure to thrive" and secondarily as "dementia".

That sort of handywork should keep Covid deaths down too.
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I'm sorry about your grandma.

It is an interesting anecdote to see as all I've ever heard was the opposite.

I'm pretty sure there are still a non-insignificant number of people today that believe all these covid deaths are from motorcycle accidents and it's a deep state conspiracy.

The human mind is amazing.
my uncle passed on a vent with covid after ~2 weeks in the hospital. kids and grand kids weren't even allowed to go up and say goodbye. labeled as pneumonia.
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12-04-2020 , 05:17 PM
Death certificates, at any time not just now, are incredibly subjective.
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12-04-2020 , 05:29 PM
Had to get a belt today. Literally tossed my last one and have been beltless for a week.

Went to Homegoods with the intent of walking in, grabbing a belt, and walking out. Got to store and lot was literally 95% full with well over 100 cars. Walk in and it is FULL of soccer moms and old people just strolling around christmas shopping with carts full of ****. Checkout line 25 deep stretching for miles. Ten feet inside door, I assess and immediately leave.

I guess I really didn't need a belt today. Getting extremely salty.
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12-04-2020 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I'm sorry about your grandma.

It is an interesting anecdote to see as all I've ever heard was the opposite.

I'm pretty sure there are still a non-insignificant number of people today that believe all these covid deaths are from motorcycle accidents and it's a deep state conspiracy.

The human mind is amazing.
My MiL, ladies and germs. Significant drama on the week before T-Day. I made the mistake of asking her why the hospital inflating 'covid related deaths' makes them money?

"The Deep State" was actually more coherent then her explanation, which included a lot of sputters and 'Trump said'.
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12-04-2020 , 05:45 PM
Pay some local leather worker 50 bucks or so for a belt. Goin on 15 years with my everyday belt from some guy in rural Georgia.
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12-04-2020 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by knivesout
My 94 yo grandma was reasonably healthy until she got Covid, then died 3 weeks later. On her death certificate, her cause of death was listed as "failure to thrive" and secondarily as "dementia".

That sort of handywork should keep Covid deaths down too.
Wisconsin?
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12-04-2020 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
I guess I really didn't need a belt today. Getting extremely salty.
Eat more.
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12-04-2020 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Had to get a belt today. Literally tossed my last one and have been beltless for a week.

Went to Homegoods with the intent of walking in, grabbing a belt, and walking out. Got to store and lot was literally 95% full with well over 100 cars. Walk in and it is FULL of soccer moms and old people just strolling around christmas shopping with carts full of ****. Checkout line 25 deep stretching for miles. Ten feet inside door, I assess and immediately leave.

I guess I really didn't need a belt today. Getting extremely salty.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=belts&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
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12-04-2020 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Had to get a belt today. Literally tossed my last one and have been beltless for a week.

Went to Homegoods with the intent of walking in, grabbing a belt, and walking out. Got to store and lot was literally 95% full with well over 100 cars. Walk in and it is FULL of soccer moms and old people just strolling around christmas shopping with carts full of ****. Checkout line 25 deep stretching for miles. Ten feet inside door, I assess and immediately leave.

I guess I really didn't need a belt today. Getting extremely salty.
You can't possibly so oblivious to the optimal way to purchase a belt that this actually happened.
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12-04-2020 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Had to get a belt today. Literally tossed my last one and have been beltless for a week.

Went to Homegoods with the intent of walking in, grabbing a belt, and walking out. Got to store and lot was literally 95% full with well over 100 cars. Walk in and it is FULL of soccer moms and old people just strolling around christmas shopping with carts full of ****. Checkout line 25 deep stretching for miles. Ten feet inside door, I assess and immediately leave.

I guess I really didn't need a belt today. Getting extremely salty.
Thought for sure this was going to end with a trip to the bar for a boilermaker. Disappointed.

Also, go to goodwill or something like that.
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12-04-2020 , 08:06 PM
Today I disinfected a few stores/eateries in a mall outside of DC and people were looking at me in my full PPE (think Outbreak) like I was the crazy one walking around that place.
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12-04-2020 , 08:08 PM
Please tell me you randomly started chasing a few of them while waving a rag, or spray bottle, in their direction..
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12-04-2020 , 08:11 PM
Villian, I didn't realize you're in the DC area.

Do you happen to know who disinfected (I assume they bothered, anyway) after the WH outbreak?

I assume there has to be high security clearance, is it maybe an internal function?
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12-04-2020 , 08:16 PM
Villian are you traveling around doing this or are you based in DC?
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12-04-2020 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Deaths should start to go down at some point as we should start to run out of good death candidates.
Actually I've been wondering about this somewhat. Supposedly the real infection numbers in the US are up to 8x the confirmed numbers. That would mean fully a third of Americans have already been infected. I'm just not buying that. Very few people I know have gotten it, and I live in NJ/NY Metro area which was hit harder than most back in the spring. Of course some could have been asymptomatic I suppose, but my guess is that the true number is more like 3x the reported case numbers, or about 45million in the US that have been infected. That would work out to about 14% of Americans, which seems about right to me. So I do think there are a lot of vulnerable people still out there. The recent spikes in deaths, in spite of better hospital treatments, bears that out.
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12-04-2020 , 08:50 PM
There's plenty of more dying to do.
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12-04-2020 , 08:56 PM
I am based in Delaware. My service area is all of Delaware, southeastern PA (I stay away from Philly), most of MD (I try not to go west of Frederick but have), and parts of VA (I go to Accomack a lot).

Basically, I have a large client that I will do pretty much anything for, so if they tell me to jump, I ask how high. They are a massive pest company that probably none of you have heard of but their client list is pretty impressive. I am basically a subcontractor for them. I do have my own jobs but most of my disinfection jobs come from them.

One of my techs decided to take a week off so I've been scrambling trying to cover for him. This one worked out because I had a normal microbial consulting job at Camden Yards today so I was in the area anyway.

De captain - I did not, but I hope some of the people that saw me think about why I was there taking such precautions.

Golddog - I do not know who did the White House disinfection. I do know that I would never hire that company to do a disinfection.

This is a photo taken of them electrostaticly disinfecting the WH and there are a few major issues with how they are doing it.



First off, you are doing the friggin White House, please splurge on a brand name Tyvek suit. I understand at that time Tyvek suits were in high demand but that is no excuse. If I can get them, they should be able to get them.

Second off, he is not wearing a full respirator. He is using what looks like a regular N95 mask and goggles. We use 3M full face respirators with 3M P100 filters. Sloppy and dangerous.

Thirdly, he is wearing one pair of latex gloves (you can actually see the guy's skin being exposed). He should be wearing one pair of latex gloves underneath a secondary pair of flock lined gloves. This is to prevent any exposure if the flock lined gloves get pierced or torn. That is really bad.

Fourthly, you can't see this in the current picture (maybe they removed it?) but the guy is actually wearing a pair of adidas with no booties. All of my techs wear tyvek suits with built in booties. If they are not possible to find (they are) then you should be using separate booties to put over the shoes. Having your shoes exposed is just begging for cross contamination and flat out dangerous. Steel toe boots and booties ftw.

The only thing they got right was the sprayer. They are in fact using the correct sprayer.

These guys obviously have no been using electrostatic disinfection long because when spray positively charged disinfectant into the air it is going to get into every nook and cranny, including your eyeballs.

Edit...perhaps that is not his skin showing? If it is tape, then that is good but he still needs two pairs of gloves on each hand. Not sure why he has two different types of gloves for each hand. Makes no sense

Last edited by Villian1; 12-04-2020 at 09:18 PM.
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