1,000,000 cases in one week?

I do care about pump and dump schemes. They are highly unethical and bring the company into question. That has been far from proven (in fact, not really any good evidence) in the case of Pfizer, though. Seems like a legit beef with Moderna, but it doesn't mean that everything they do is a scam. Even AMWAY made some decent cleaning products.

Amazing. Zero national strategy.

On the news last night they interviewed nurses from Utah who said that even recovered COVID patients who were near death, wake up and start railing at the doctors and nurses who saved their lives, that it's all a hoax. Insane.

Interesting read about Moderna/BioNTech and the development of mRNA vaccines:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/...-vaccine-race/

But if only we were on an island, we would be fine!

Mouthwash is able to kill COVID-19 within 30 seconds of exposure to it in a laboratory, a scientific study has found.

Now if only we could inject it.

I just pour it in my nose. So far so good.

I don't know what the source of your chart is, so I can't speak to it and I'm not a subject matter expert by any means. But your assertion that many people believed mRNA vaccines to be without promise is simply untrue. Astro Zeneca gave Moderna $240 million for mRNA drug rights (mRNA drugs are way, way more risky than mRNA vaccines, because the downside of mRNA is that it provokes an immune response). Pfizer invested in the mRNA vaccine without taking free money from the government that would protect them against losses if the vaccine failed -- a very strong indicator that they were confident it was likely to work.

Statnews has a good summary of the history of the field. People were very skeptical of mRNA in the 80s and 90s, but the scientific consensus has been that the technology holds significant promise for a decade or so now.

For a more detailed science-based look at what the field thought of mRNA vaccines, I'd suggest reading mRNA Vaccines: A New Era in Vaccinology from the Nature Reviews Drug Discovery in 2018.

Where we agree is that the executives at Moderna are sleazeballs, who have puffed the technology, raised billions and became enormously wealthy way before this vaccine and have shown no inclination to stop squeezing every dollar out of the game that they can. It doesn't follow that the technology is some kind of Theranos style shell game.

My apologies, I now see that you posted the article before I did.

For the second time since this pandemic started, my rent is getting raised.
I'm barely making it as it is.

Enema here for me. No virus yet, and minty fresh farts.

I'm sticking with the alcohol in beer, maybe the occasional rum or brandy. Also so far so good, but I'm not going to let my defense down!

This kind of stuff and the Vit D prevention are what I am here for atm, and much less counting on a working vaccine. That is more next Summer, at best.

I will most likely just begin gargling mouthwash when I come home from being out anywhere, much like I wash my hands now. Same for keeds.

I thought the mouthwash stuff was already well known. Like hand sanitizer.

My dentist told me to do that awhile ago but she might have just been trying to get me to use mouthwash more frequently.

I didn't read the article so I have no clue if type of mouthwash matters but she is all about the Listerine Total Care and told me to stay away from non-alcoholic mouthwash.

The catch with alcohol in mouthwash is that it kills a lot of the good germs along with the bad.

Cluster 5 > Maroon 5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_5

get those fury little critters some mouthwash stat

They might close the nearby gyms. I'm so pissed. I was thinking about starting to go in a couple week.

New Year Resolution?

Cross post from LVL, where immunity duration is being discussed:

The study this report is based on is a preprint that has not yet been peer-reviewed, but scientists at the La Jolla Institute of Immunology in California found that eight months after participants had been infected with COVID-19, they still had high enough immune cells to fight off the virus and prevent another round of infection. That slow rate of decline in the short term indicates that immunity may remain for years.

According to the NY Times Pfizer has released final data and results are even better than the prelim. 170 Covid cases among the 44k participants, 162 in the placebo group. 95% effectiveness. Worked across all age groups and ethnicities.

The New York Times: New Pfizer Results: Coronavirus Vaccine Is Safe and 95% Effective.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/h...d-vaccine.html

Approval should happen in the next few days. Operation Warp Speed shows what we are capable of and I hope that we expand it into focusing on diseases.

biden promised to cure cancer in one of his campaign speeches. so we have that going for us

LOL

You can probably get a good deal on a membership right now effective when they re-open.