Not dumb people are predicting the next 6-12 weeks in USA are going to be DARK.

Not sure a lot of people realize that, but I certainly believe it. We blew the chance to get this anywhere resembling under control before winter and now we will pay.

Yup, and mitigation fatigue is high and holiday season is right around the corner, so things are probably going to get ugly. Better get out all those monoclonal therapies that worked great for Trump to masses stat.

This is meant as a light hearted observation, not politarding.

If I was Biden not sure I would want to win.

Nah. Four years is a long time. We'll have a vaccine and the economy will have recovered by the time his term is up.

The debt and deficit are going to become a BIG DEAL again if Biden wins. Weird how that works. Hello austerity.

Please stop. Here's another topic:

Imagine being Fauci, a top virologist who has served basically every president in modern times, who has been preparing for this pandemic for basically his entire career. And then when it finally comes, the biggest dipshit in history has just gutted and shut down the entire program, and then doubles and triples down calling Fauci an idiot, but not before using his doctored words in one of your campaign commercials.

He must be like 'are you ****ing kidding me?'

Absolutely appalling.

Must be pure AIDS.

Finally joe Rogan’s podcast is experiencing Covid. This midget of a man has been spreading bullshit for months.

So my 72 year old uncle drove his 95+ year old mother down to Texas for snowbird season. Turns out that the old lady didn't believe in the corona and it turns out she's got it. As does my uncle now. And his wife (my godmother). My aunt went on a 20 minute rants about Trump (does this every day) and how this is his fault and i actually agree with her for once.

It’s very strange to me how people bang the drum about how we need to stop covid and then rejoice when prominent people they disagree with get covid.

Jamie Vernon is young (36yo) and appears very healthy, sorry to disappoint but he'll be fine

His show has been awful for this pandemic. Definitely more than 0% of his followers took his lead.

He has maybe the biggest podcast in the world, and used it to **** on masks.

Being happy this bozo can’t spread misinformation for a week or two is definitely the same as rooting for them to die.

but can everyone else he’s come in contact with since he started carrying with the likelihood of transmitting say the same thing?

you really don’t understand, do you?

I do understand. So you think the Rogan podcast should have been more careful? They test the staff and every guest before every show. Extremely likely Vernon caught it outside of working hours (they didn't record a show for the last 9 days). Are you aware of his mask/social distancing/hand washing, etc. etiquette outside of working hours? Cause I'm not....

So you're saying you really, really don't understand, do you?

Enlighten me

He and his wife are getting death threats. =(

I think they're speaking more to the audience reach of a guy like rogan when he starts spouting covid & mask bs.

They don't do the guest/employee-testing because they want to, they do it because they have to.

Rogan: Masks are for pussies
[time passes]
Poster: Rogan's show got Covid
Brock: Sorry to disappoint, but he'll be fine
RedEyes: It's not just about him, it's everyone he comes in contact with (meaning everything might not be fine even if he is ok and the snarky "sorry to disappoint" means you don't get it)
Brock: I do understand. So you think the Rogan podcast should have been more careful? They test the staff and every guest before every show. Extremely likely Vernon caught it outside of working hours (they didn't record a show for the last 9 days). Are you aware of his mask/social distancing/hand washing, etc. etiquette outside of working hours? Cause I'm not....

No, you saying "sorry to disappoint" like it's no biggie means you don't get it. The people who care will be disappointed if he kills other people, not that he survives. You either still don't know how the virus works, or you're being duplicitous.

Of course it's noteworthy when a show that has been stigmatizing being safe has to deal with it. Like how is that surprising? It's another version of the **** your feelings crowd being really tired of the name-calling as soon as the shoe is on the other foot.

Changed your post a bit but as edited I find nothing strange about it, just sorry for the people these idiots have been around.

I'm wondering what the situation is going to be like if there are something like 100K positives. We're running at about 500-2000 cases per day, so antigen tests might pick up let's say 20K new cases (given they don't pick up everyone at every stage of infection), and even with a 2% false positive rate we'd have 100K false positives in the population of 5 million, for a total of 120K positives. So the false discovery rate would be 83% (in the sense that the a person who tests positive is still a 5-1 favourite to be negative).

I wonder what the political response would be to 100K positive tests.

This is what I thought originally, but in their defence there are a few things to consider:

1) It's true that people in some other country could randomly get tested too and also cut off a potential chain of infections, but they would be the only person doing it, there's no matching action from other people. If the whole country is doing it then arguably there is a kind of social contract going on, i.e. I'm protected by other people testing and if I don't do it myself to protect them then I'm freeloading - "stiffing", the word Americans use for not tipping when it's not compulsory but expected seems to describe it.

2) My original position seems to have a major inconsistency in it:
Case A - I would trigger a positive test. Case B - I would not trigger a positive test.

In Case B it doesn't make much difference if I take it or not so let's look at Case A:
If I'm Case A but don't take the test, then obviously I don't tell people I'm Case A because I don't know myself.
If I'm Case A and I find that out, then I would tell everyone that I'm Case A rather than keeping it quiet. So why is it then better not to take the test? Wanting not to take the test seems to contradict the principle that information is of non-negative value.

3) Given the inconsistency in 2) people can be forgiven for being sceptical that I would react to a positve test the way I say I would.


BTW - the Prime Minister wants it to be "voluntary" in the sense that you can do the test or you can quarantine for 10 days so I may well not have a choice about it anyway.

Just wanted to say a quick thanks to those of you who wrote kind words and well wishes. My mom was released from the hospital and is doing much better. Dad seems to have avoided infection or at least was asymptomatic. I feel truly lucky but realize that this will probably not be the last time covid hits close to home before this pandemic is over. Stay safe out there friends.

I think you should be grateful that your country seems to be taking it serious and be happy to participate. People having to quarantine for 10 days on a false positive seems a small price to pay to significantly slow the spread of the virus. If only you could just close the borders like New Zealand to go with the nationwide test, it'd be over, lol!

Fauci's response today... such a professional and classy guy.