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05-10-2022 , 06:14 PM
I've sent back steak once (we both ordered medium rare... mine came out raw and the other came out medium well), but I think I send that back.


The scallops, bacon, and creamed spinach all look fantastic.
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05-10-2022 , 07:42 PM
Closer to rare than MR but omnomnom nonetheless. Would have to be cold or grey for me to send it back but I guess thats why I never order steak at a restaurant.
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05-10-2022 , 08:02 PM




This isn't rocket science.
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05-10-2022 , 08:14 PM
last time i was in dallas for a wedding our host insisted on taking us out to "the finest steakhouse in texas"

can't remember name, fairly pricey, reasonable prices for entrees but they get ya with the extra so a few hundo a person if you embrace the experience

was good food but nothing mind blowing, people who ordered the ribeyes etc were very pleased and the one guy who ordered the filet mignon was deeply disappointed, he barely touched it,when our host left for the bathroom someone asked him what was wrong he asked to try their steak and said "omg this is so much better" so we all tried his and it was basically inedible, worst steak of my life, hard to describe, the texture was just wrong and flavor wasn't that of steak

we all insisted he send it back but he refused because our host was a regular and treating us and he was friendly with ownership so he thought it'd make for an awkward situation

still think he should have sent it back, every time the waiter came by i had to fight back the urge to speak up for my friend who got the filet
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05-10-2022 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
last time i was in dallas for a wedding our host insisted on taking us out to "the finest steakhouse in texas"

can't remember name, fairly pricey, reasonable prices for entrees but they get ya with the extra so a few hundo a person if you embrace the experience
so much innuendo here
congrats on your stag party
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05-11-2022 , 03:28 PM
On my first wedding anniversary the wife and I went to a fancy Chicago steakhouse (keefers) for a meal I definitely couldn’t afford. So being the financially savvy person I am, I ordered the $80 ribeye and the wife ordered the $80 filet. I was a young man with little fine dining experience and my steak came out medium well.

It was an anxiety riddled experience telling the waiter my steak was over cooked and it was made worse by his insistence that I had ordered it medium well. He was a twat to us the rest of the evening.

It took forever to recook the steak and by the time it got out the wife had finished her steak and the sides were cold so the waiter asked if I wanted fresh sides and I said just the spinach would be fine.

My anxiety turned to rage when the bill had an extra side of spinach on it. After going full karen on the manager I walked out of there with a comped steak and sides and left a not so generous tip.

When I sent back the wife it didn’t go nearly as well.

Csb.
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05-11-2022 , 03:59 PM
LOL!
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05-12-2022 , 07:38 PM
just tell them 'I like it hot and pink on the inslde, like my women'
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05-12-2022 , 09:35 PM
Pretty much this. Came to the conclusion that when you order steak you treat it like a gamble. Sending a steak back is inconvenient for everyone at your table and can make things very awkward with the staff. I have sent a few back before but a couple years ago committed to never doing it again, and my enjoyment of the whole experience without being concerned about perfection is actually a lot better. Wife had a big role in this!
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05-12-2022 , 10:07 PM
Subscribed. We live in a society here.
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05-13-2022 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AAmbass
Pretty much this. Came to the conclusion that when you order steak you treat it like a gamble. Sending a steak back is inconvenient for everyone at your table and can make things very awkward with the staff. I have sent a few back before but a couple years ago committed to never doing it again, and my enjoyment of the whole experience without being concerned about perfection is actually a lot better. Wife had a big role in this!
There is a big difference about being concerned with perfection and being served a steak 15-20° (F) off one way or the other from how you order it. It's especially ridiculous when you are paying $80 or more for a steak. That doesn't even take into account the sear or gray band... simply just the internal temperature.


Again, I have sent exactly one steak back in my lifetime (then again, I haven't ordered my steak at restaurants because of this thread), but I'm not eating a raw steak.
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05-13-2022 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
There is a big difference about being concerned with perfection and being served a steak 15-20° (F) off one way or the other from how you order it. It's especially ridiculous when you are paying $80 or more for a steak. That doesn't even take into account the sear or gray band... simply just the internal temperature.


Again, I have sent exactly one steak back in my lifetime (then again, I haven't ordered my steak at restaurants because of this thread), but I'm not eating a raw steak.
This.

I have never sent one back for being undercooked. The ones I have sent back can't be repaired to suit me. But you never know what accompaniments might be added
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05-13-2022 , 08:09 PM
If it's at a meal with people you don't know well and you're getting free stuff you can't send it back. Coinflip with somebody else close at the table. Easy choice to send it back if you're at the bar by yourself.
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05-13-2022 , 10:30 PM
I get it. You want what you pay for. And I suppose if you’re solo at a bar you can do what you want. But at my dinners at steakhouses if I don’t eat my steak as served, my steak is on hold for 10-15 minutes while everyone else eats. And this is towards the end of the meal after apps and cocktails, etc. Makes things awkward, changes the flow, etc. For me, I’ve had enough bad experiences that I just let it go. Now obviously this isn’t religious; if the steak is raw and unsafe to eat I’d mention that!
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05-14-2022 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
If it's at a meal with people you don't know well and you're getting free stuff you can't send it back.
I guess I just don't understand this. If I'm paying, then I don't want the person I'm paying for to be unsatisfied. I'd most likely suggest they send it back.


If it's a timing thing with other people at the table, then eating bread/sides seems fine especially if you figure in an after the meal drink.


I realize I listed a dollar amount, but it's not exactly, "I want what I paid for". It's more so that you are going to a steak house and want something at least decent (or at least edible). Anything else seems absurd. I'd rather these places close than continually serve bad steaks.
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05-14-2022 , 02:12 PM
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If it's at a meal with people you don't know well and you're getting free stuff you can't send it back. Coinflip with somebody else close at the table. Easy choice to send it back if you're at the bar by yourself.
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I guess I just don't understand this.
I think he's referring to 27's specific story where the waiter was a friend and was bringing them free deserts, among other things.
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05-14-2022 , 02:18 PM
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I think he's referring to 27's specific story where the waiter was a friend and was bringing them free deserts, among other things.
That's fine, but this story also involved the server waiting for 27o to cut into the steak to approve the quality?


EDIT: Also, how is sending back this steak a bad thing after you ask this?


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I told our server I was a steak professional on the internet and asked what I should expect if I order medium-rare. She said pink and warmed through.

Last edited by Randall Stevens; 05-14-2022 at 02:25 PM.
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05-14-2022 , 08:02 PM
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That's fine, but this story also involved the server waiting for 27o to cut into the steak to approve the quality?


EDIT: Also, how is sending back this steak a bad thing after you ask this?

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I told our server I was a steak professional on the internet and asked what I should expect if I order medium-rare. She said pink and warmed through.
that's just 27 not recognizing the server was trying to pick him up and would be waiting for him in the unisex restroom
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05-15-2022 , 07:50 PM
fairly uncomfortable boner...
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05-15-2022 , 08:03 PM
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fairly uncomfortable T-boner...
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05-21-2022 , 07:26 PM
Thoughts on doneness here and hostility towards pre-salting?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_SzWBnlas

Last edited by 27offsuit; 05-21-2022 at 08:26 PM. Reason: nevermind
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05-21-2022 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AAmbass
Thoughts on doneness here and hostility towards pre-salting?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_SzWBnlas
Most here could eat a 3lb t-bone over the course of a 36 minute video. Summary?
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05-21-2022 , 08:54 PM
It’s a beautiful steak, great crust, but it’s definitely a gradient from the outside to the middle. IOW, it’s nothing like a reverse sear with minimal gray band. However, Frank acknowledges it and says he likes the different textures.
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05-21-2022 , 09:09 PM
That guy knows steak.
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05-22-2022 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AAmbass
Thoughts on doneness here and hostility towards pre-salting?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_SzWBnlas

This is basically a variant of the Ducasse method—medium heat all the way, trading some gray band for an elite crust. I do this maybe 20% of the time.

I would def hang out with this dude.
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