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02-12-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigdaddydvo
I’ve posted Kenji General Tso’s before but I really can’t recommend it enough:









Served with steamed Jasmine rice.

Making this Wednesday. Anyone got any tips? Should I stick to the recipe or make some alterations?
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02-12-2018 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime
Making this Wednesday. Anyone got any tips? Should I stick to the recipe or make some alterations?


This recipe is dynamite as written.

I like to add a tablespoon or so of fermented chili paste to the sauce for a bit of funk and heat. Next time I also may swap brown sugar for white sugar, given the additional richness and complexity of the former.
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02-12-2018 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I make bread often enough to know what baker's percentages are and what sorts of loaves you get from various hydration ratios. I also have a copy of Peter Reinhart's The Bread Baker's Apprentice, which has a challah recipe in it. He won a James Beard award for that book. And I can google other people's challah recipes too. And btc's ratios are, shall we say, unusual in comparison to everybody else's.

btc's pizza dough recipe is around 75% hydration. People like Reinhart and Ken Forkish and others usually end up around 70% for a pizza dough, so btc's is a bit high but not crazy town. Then, for his challah, he's going to add 2 eggs + 1 yolk, and a squirt of honey, pushing him into the range of 100% hydration.

This is a fairly representative challah. They are usually made with somewhere between 55-60% hydrated doughs.



This is what a 100% hydrated bread looks like:

good stuff, thx

I love bread but find the process too tedious to get into which is probably good because the last thing my fat ass needs is tasty bread lying around the house
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02-12-2018 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Zak, btc:

Let me know whenever you guys have agreed on a post for me to follow and make some challah bread.
lol, challah wars
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02-12-2018 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
I got an side bar advertisement for this on a different site with the pricing involved after watching this. LOL at the price. Also naan >>>> roti.
BIG LOL at the price!
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02-12-2018 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yimyammer
lol, challah wars


Seriously the challah wars has almost made me unsubscribe from here. Such heated arguments over bread recipes.
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02-12-2018 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Seriously the challah wars has almost made me unsubscribe from here. Such heated arguments over bread recipes.
lol, true but I gotta admit I kinda want to make some challah
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02-13-2018 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by yimyammer
lol, true but I gotta admit I kinda want to make some challah
Me too. I used to live in a really Jewish area and would buy it every so often for something different. Now I think I'd have to drive for an hour to get some.

Btw potato flour is quite good as a slight thickening agent in asian sauces for stir fries (obviously with water added too).
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02-13-2018 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by yimyammer
lol, true but I gotta admit I kinda want to make some challah


Love challah, actually think American Jewish food is way underrated. It has a reputation for being over cooked and bland but I think it’s great. Than again I also really like all central and Eastern European cuisine none have a good rep.
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02-13-2018 , 02:05 AM
I don't know anything about making pizza but I always see the guys at Sally's (that Sally's) spraying the pies with a quick spritz of what looks like water before throwing them in the super hot oven so maybe try that
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02-13-2018 , 04:06 AM
Rex, yim:

Ok **** it, those guys aren’t gonna agree on anything.

Let’s all make some challah and I’ll donate $50 each to your favorite cause in exchange for challah making post here.
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02-13-2018 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Rex, yim:

Ok **** it, those guys aren’t gonna agree on anything.

Let’s all make some challah and I’ll donate $50 each to your favorite cause in exchange for challah making post here.
I'm willing to give it a go. Do I need to use the recipe that was given? I've never made it before so there is a possibility my first attempt will be a disaster!
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02-13-2018 , 09:15 AM
I'm still in for $100 for a successful Original Recipe Challah Challenge. I'll put up $50 for a failure.

No action given for the recipe that was adjusted (but still bad) after I explained the biggest problem with the first.
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02-13-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I'm still in for $100 for a successful Original Recipe Challah Challenge. I'll put up $50 for a failure.

No action given for the recipe that was adjusted (but still bad) after I explained the biggest problem with the first.
You pussed out for no other reason than you couldn't win. The adjusted recipe is the same as the original, use what you need in your own kitchen. Your explanation had nothing to do with my adjustments, it was your stupid 20% margin of error for a bread baking competition lol. Change your location to garbage can because you are nothing but a grouch.

Anyway I made this lovely little spiral-raisinette challah for breakfast following the recipe posted and guess what:







Donations to https://www.nationalmssociety.org/Donate are appreciated. Your $ could be the cure.

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02-13-2018 , 10:27 AM
^ Can someone make a Challah wars meme?
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02-13-2018 , 10:35 AM
El Diablo - $50
zikzak - $100

I'm guessing zikzak will welch, hopefully El Diablo won't.
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02-13-2018 , 10:53 AM
FTR this is how the mideast conflict began.
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02-13-2018 , 10:56 AM
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FTR this is how the mideast conflict began.
Flatbread has its place but going up against challas and bagels, hmm...
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02-13-2018 , 11:03 AM
btc,

What? You want people to donate for you successfully executing your own recipe? That makes no sense.

I'll try making it using your original post that started Challah Wars. Then you or zik can donate $100 based on whether that's successful or not. Just need to get some yeast and a loaf pan.

My offer to Rex and yim stands, $50 each to their favorite charities if they make challah using your recipe, regardless of results. I don't care if they use your first or second recipe post.
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02-13-2018 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Rex, yim:

Ok **** it, those guys aren’t gonna agree on anything.

Let’s all make some challah and I’ll donate $50 each to your favorite cause in exchange for challah making post here.
Sounds fun, I'm game.

Zikzak, if I make btc's recipe below, are you saying it won't work and I'll be an arbiter of sorts by posting my results?

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If you want to post bogus parameters then I want to adjust the recipe for your proposed 20% margin of error. I'll sign off on this recipe:

Ingredients:
Packet of activated dry yeast
.5 - .75 cups cup very warm water
Strong squirt of honey
3 cups ap flour
good pinch of salt
3 solid tablespoons of olive oil
2 eggs + 1 yolk
extra egg for eggwash

optional:
raisins

Preparation:

Yeast, flour and salt (and raisins) go in a bowl big enough to hold all ingredients, stir it up

Add the liquids to the dry stuff, stir it up until the dough forms
Knead dough in the bowl for about 5-10 mins until its a smooth ball - add a little extra flour if sticky.

*Dough ball gets covered in the clean oiled bowl to double in size in a warmish place

Poke the dough to deflate it and then transfer to an oiled loaf pan (or braid as you like and move it to the baking vessel of your choice)

Cover and let rise again in a warmish place until it doubles or gets resistance from the cover

Eggwash (combine extra egg with a splash of water) then bake at between 350 - 375 for half hr.

*You can use the same bowl for everything. When the dough ball is ready, set it aside and rinse the work bowl with hot water, dry it, oil it, and put the dough right back in. The bowl will retain some heat and help kickstart the rise.
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02-13-2018 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
btc,

What? You want people to donate for you successfully executing your own recipe? That makes no sense.

I'll try making it using your original post that started Challah Wars. Then you or zik can donate $100 based on whether that's successful or not. Just need to get some yeast and a loaf pan.

My offer to Rex and yim stands, $50 each to their favorite charities if they make challah using your recipe, regardless of results. I don't care if they use your first or second recipe post.
Sounds good, I'm doing the 2nd recipe IIUC, just want to make sure we're doing different ones so we can see the results
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02-13-2018 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
btc,

What? You want people to donate for you successfully executing your own recipe? That makes no sense.

I'll try making it using your original post that started Challah Wars. Then you or zik can donate $100 based on whether that's successful or not. Just need to get some yeast and a loaf pan.

My offer to Rex and yim stands, $50 each to their favorite charities if they make challah using your recipe, regardless of results. I don't care if they use your first or second recipe post.
I was not not asking you to donate yet.

To the bakers, if you are working in a humid kitchen, use less liquid. If you are working in a dry kitchen, use more. 20% is just not enough margin for error because if your kitchen is super humid you might have to cut the liquid by as much as half sometimes and vice versa if its too dry. The humidity level when I made that challah was around 25% and I had to use a total of ~3.1 cups of flour with ~.75 cups of water.

Last edited by btc; 02-13-2018 at 11:25 AM.
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02-13-2018 , 11:21 AM
Would using a breadmaker to mix the dough still count? I don't want to mess up my mani. I could probably pump one out for you filthy goyum.
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02-13-2018 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by btc
I was not not asking you to donate yet.

To the bakers, if you are working in a humid kitchen, use less liquid. If you are working in a dry kitchen, use more. 20% is just not enough margin for error because if your kitchen is super humid you might have to cut the liquid by as much as half sometimes and vice versa if its too dry. The humidity level when I made that challah was around 25% and I had to use a total of ~3.1 cups of flour with ~.75 cups of water.
I have no idea what the humidity level of my kitchen is so I plan to just follow the recipe as you wrote it.

Here are the two yeasts I had in my fridge:



A few clarifications:

1. Which one should I use

2. You throw it in the dry ingredients and don't start it with some warm water and honey?

3. I use the entire package?

thx
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02-13-2018 , 11:43 AM
Yim,

No questions or clarifications! That will void my charity offer!
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