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08-28-2008 , 10:00 AM
At least now Dan can play up the angle of "the jury house hates me, I won't get any votes, bring me to the final 2" with everyone.
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08-28-2008 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Some great gossip from my producer friend on the show:

Ollie and Michelle have been major major pains in the ass since the veto ceremony. My friend had to sit in the BB control room for 8 hours Monday night to ensure that Ollie didn't physically attack Dan. He's been a spoiled little child complaining about the game ever since.

And Michelle has been whining non-stop about the biggest injustice in the history of BB -- as if she's never heard of being backdoored before. She feels like such a victim that she and Ollie have been acting crazier than ever.

As a result, the producers have taken all the alcohol out of the house for the last 3 days. Alcohol acts as an enabler to violence, and because of Michelle and Ollie's behavior, BB doesn't want to take any chances. And now Michelle has been complaining about not having any booze -- but it's her own fault!

Fantastic. God I hate those people. God I love this show.
This is great! Keep us up to date with all the juicy gossip behind the scenes.

FWIW, I hate this move by Dan. There really is no reason for him to do what he did. I mean if he never intended to go all the way with the deal he should've just flat out put up Michelle and Jerry to begin with. I get the point of playing the game yada yada but when you string someone along like this and then stab them in the back like he did to Ollie. This stings REAL hard, and even if Dan somehow makes it to the end he's sure not going to get Ollie/April or Michelle's vote. Ditto for Jerry who hates and doesn't trust Dan. Now even his own alliance is questioning him. He just proved to his own alliance that he can't be trusted. I really think he pissed away the $500K.

FWIW I've never been a big Dan fan from the start. Maybe with this cast he irratated me the least besides Angie. His gameplay to look weak throughout the game and now pulling this ridiculous move is stupid. I would be really stunned if he made it to the end. He's got lots of enemies now who are gunning for him bigtime for personal reasons and not gameplay. This was all really unnecessary for him to put himself in this position. I really think this fps move is one of the worst in bb history, considering how unnecessary it was.
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08-28-2008 , 06:10 PM
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This is great! Keep us up to date with all the juicy gossip behind the scenes.

FWIW, I hate this move by Dan. There really is no reason for him to do what he did. I mean if he never intended to go all the way with the deal he should've just flat out put up Michelle and Jerry to begin with. I get the point of playing the game yada yada but when you string someone along like this and then stab them in the back like he did to Ollie. This stings REAL hard, and even if Dan somehow makes it to the end he's sure not going to get Ollie/April or Michelle's vote. Ditto for Jerry who hates and doesn't trust Dan. Now even his own alliance is questioning him. He just proved to his own alliance that he can't be trusted. I really think he pissed away the $500K.

FWIW I've never been a big Dan fan from the start. Maybe with this cast he irratated me the least besides Angie. His gameplay to look weak throughout the game and now pulling this ridiculous move is stupid. I would be really stunned if he made it to the end. He's got lots of enemies now who are gunning for him bigtime for personal reasons and not gameplay. This was all really unnecessary for him to put himself in this position. I really think this fps move is one of the worst in bb history, considering how unnecessary it was.
I totally agree. Breaking your word is bad enough, but keeping Ollie's hopes up until the last second only leaves a bad taste in Ollie's mouth, and HUGE target and spotlight on Dan.

It's like when one of my buddies pussies out on partying. I'd rather get a no up front so I can plan ahead, then a last minute bail out.
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08-28-2008 , 08:02 PM
uhh, hwen is big brother?
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08-28-2008 , 08:37 PM
Keesha is so clutch. Of course she can beat Jessie in an arm wrestling match. 10th level thinking. Way to go you above average looking Hooters girl!
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08-28-2008 , 08:43 PM
Jerry really dropped the ball on that question. Boy am I pissed.

I really don't know how Ollie is so composed right now after how Dan acted after the veto. I just wished that Ollie would just slug Dan in that smug face of his, since he's leaving anyways.
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08-28-2008 , 09:03 PM
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Jerry really dropped the ball on that question. Boy am I pissed.

I really don't know how Ollie is so composed right now after how Dan acted after the veto. I just wished that Ollie would just slug Dan in that smug face of his, since he's leaving anyways.
Hatorade
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08-28-2008 , 09:13 PM
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Jerry really dropped the ball on that question. Boy am I pissed.

I really don't know how Ollie is so composed right now after how Dan acted after the veto. I just wished that Ollie would just slug Dan in that smug face of his, since he's leaving anyways.
Ollie doesnt have the guts to do something like that. he probaly wouldn't even hurt dan anyways. Best case Sercino went down for Dan and Memphis, but the got lucky that Keesha won HOH she only went Down on that last question out of Despartion and somehow it was right. LOL @ Michelle thinking Dan was a plant even though he didnt win or do anything til last week.
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08-28-2008 , 10:52 PM
Yeah they got lucky that Keesha pulled through but honestly Jerry really drop the ball too. The answer to who America would pick to win an arm wrestling contest would obviously be Keesha. Both answers didn't make sense but if he was smart enough, he would know who America would choose. It didn't surprise me that Keesha, Renny and Memphis all got it right and chose Keesha. No shocker that Jerry and Ollie got that one wrong. They're just much smarter players and that's why they're in the position that they are in right now.

Also I don't really understand how every houseguest ALWAYS do bad in the tiebreaker math question. I don't know if it's nerves but I don't think so. Usually the answers are just so dumb. While Keesha was scrambling to write an answer, Jerry was all confident and wrote his answer fast. I thought he had it in the bag. When he turned his answer around I nearly fell off my chair. C'mon Jerry, 320 seconds is approx 5 mins. Considering the competition and the amount of players this answer is ******ed.
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08-28-2008 , 11:41 PM
my parents thought they were only 60 Lilipops on the first tiebreaker and i said 130. Also Dan Vs Keesha in a arem wresting match is how ithought of that question and Keesha looked shocked that she got that one right. i was shocked that it was over 1000 secs 500 would of been my guess on the second tiebreaker, and was it just me or did Keesha look nerovous during the veto comp like dan was going to use it?



Also Lol @ Ollie thinking he didnt tell his Allinace the whole story.
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08-29-2008 , 12:40 AM
New HoH

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Jerry, wowza! Should be an interesting week.
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08-29-2008 , 12:41 AM
HOH spoiler.

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Jerry won.

Dan/Memphis likely getting nominated and one going home probably. Pov is must win for them.
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08-29-2008 , 03:53 AM
Fist pumps all around from me this week. I was so terrified Jerry would win HOH this week, but Keesha pulled it out on tiebreaker #2. Then Dan's veto was just as clutch.

So it's down to the alliance + Jerry, and who knows how it will play out but I think Memphis has the upper hand with the jury at the end, and Renny is a close second. I think Memphis/Keesha/Dan would be stupid to bring Renny to the end with them (everyone likes her), and it's clear Renny is incapable of winning anything on her own, so I still don't like her chances of winning.

Dan has a great shot at final 2, but as I said before he can't win with the jury. It's hard to say who would win among Memphis/Keesha, but the edge goes to Memphis with Michelle's vote on the jury.
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08-29-2008 , 05:22 PM
man, bad timing for the double veto, we woulda got a nice week of ollie/dan drama and some quality entertainment. lame, gfdsjfshdjfsd.
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08-29-2008 , 09:22 PM
HOH and nomination spoilers.

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So Jerry nominated Dan and Keesha...interesting. If either of them win I'd have to think Memphis would go up and go home. If not I don't know how Memphis could not try and take out Keesha knowing she'd be harder to beat in the final 2 than Dan.
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08-30-2008 , 07:01 PM
POV spoiler:

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Memphis won. I thought this would seal Dan's fate, but it sounds like Memphis is going to save him. It makes sense; he seems to think Renny has a better chance of winning, so this forces Jerry to put Renny on the block next to Keesha. Then, Dan and Memphis get all the power in the house, and they get to decide which one will go home. They could also split the vote and make Jerry look like the bad guy, which isn't a bad idea.

I really thought Dan was screwed, but if he can make it past this week, I think he's in surprisingly good shape. Even with three people angry at him in the jury house, we've seen in the past that people can sometimes put personal differences behind them and vote for the best player. If Dan goes up against Memphis, he's probably screwed, but I can't imagine that he'd lose to Jerry, and I think he'd pull out a surprise win vs. Keesha.

EDIT: And if Memphis is saving Dan this week, it sure makes it look like Memphis wants to take Dan all the way, which is great for Dan; he can screw Memphis next week, yet he knows Memphis probably won't do the same to him.
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08-31-2008 , 12:37 AM
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Memphis won. I thought this would seal Dan's fate, but it sounds like Memphis is going to save him. It makes sense; he seems to think Renny has a better chance of winning, so this forces Jerry to put Renny on the block next to Keesha. Then, Dan and Memphis get all the power in the house, and they get to decide which one will go home. They could also split the vote and make Jerry look like the bad guy, which isn't a bad idea.

I really thought Dan was screwed, but if he can make it past this week, I think he's in surprisingly good shape. Even with three people angry at him in the jury house, we've seen in the past that people can sometimes put personal differences behind them and vote for the best player. If Dan goes up against Memphis, he's probably screwed, but I can't imagine that he'd lose to Jerry, and I think he'd pull out a surprise win vs. Keesha.

EDIT: And if Memphis is saving Dan this week, it sure makes it look like Memphis wants to take Dan all the way, which is great for Dan; he can screw Memphis next week, yet he knows Memphis probably won't do the same to him.
Memphis knows he can only beat Dan and Dan should know he can Only beat Memphis in the final two so im not sure why either of them would screw over each other.
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08-31-2008 , 02:55 AM
spoiler tag please dangeraw
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08-31-2008 , 09:25 AM
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Memphis knows he can only beat Dan and Dan should know he can Only beat Memphis in the final two so im not sure why either of them would screw over each other.
This statement makes no sense.
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08-31-2008 , 01:54 PM
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This statement makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense.
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09-01-2008 , 02:01 AM
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Memphis knows he can only beat Dan and Dan should know he can Only beat Memphis in the final two so im not sure why either of them would screw over each other.
Problem is, Dan can't beat anyone in the final 2. Not even Memphis; and I can't imagine it would even be close.
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09-01-2008 , 09:43 AM
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Problem is, Dan can't beat anyone in the final 2. Not even Memphis; and I can't imagine it would even be close.
Agree. There's no way April, Michelle, and Ollie would ever vote for Dan. Dan basically shot himself in the foot with his fancy play.

I was really a big Dan fan, up until he made that play. He was laying low, avoiding conflict, looking weak, throwing competitions that didn't need to be won, then he just donked it all away with his stupid play.
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09-01-2008 , 11:09 AM
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Problem is, Dan can't beat anyone in the final 2. Not even Memphis; and I can't imagine it would even be close.

This is likely true, and it's why I thought Jerry should have tried to make a final two deal with Dan rather than Memphis.
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09-01-2008 , 02:27 PM
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This is likely true, and it's why I thought Jerry should have tried to make a final two deal with Dan rather than Memphis.
Dan's move was great in the sense that he increases his chances of making final 2, but he has no chance of finishing first. In order for that to happen, he's depending on Michelle and Ollie to vote based on game play, rather than personal feelings, and with how those two ended up leaving the house, there is no way there are letting that grudge go any time soon.
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09-01-2008 , 06:19 PM
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This is likely true, and it's why I thought Jerry should have tried to make a final two deal with Dan rather than Memphis.
Here's my theory on why Jerry chose Memphis to make a deal for the final two. The cast has nothing to do all day and this must constantly go through their heads on who to take.


Dan:

First off, there's absolutely no reason for Jerry to make a deal with Dan anymore. Dan has proven himself over and over again that he can't be trusted. The way he screwed over Ollie by playing him all week must rank up there in BB history as one of the most bitter exits ever.
Even though Jerry knows that bringing Dan to the final two would be a lock for Jerry to win, he can't take anything Dan says at face value. He too has been screwed over by Dan in the same way when Dan lied to him all week long and then pulling the switch to vote out Jessie. They don't know that he's America's player but it hurts a lot to be lied to like that all week. Had Dan came out from the start and said what he was going to do (which he could'nt at the time), they would've given him more slack.
Not to mention that Jerry hates Dan now and he would rather stab a pencil in his eye than giving Dan a chance to win it all. If I was in Jerry's shoes I would do the same. No way can I trust Dan to make a deal, that's just ******ed. How many times can he be screwed over?

Renny:

Renny is one person who Jerry does not want to take to the final two. Renny is much liked around the house and really hasn't done much to the evicted houseguests. Being well liked and having no blood on your hands is a deadly combo to bring to the final two. No way is Jerry bringing Renny to final two and rightfully so.

Keesha:

Same goes for Keesha who I think would be a mistake to bring to final two with Jerry. Keesha has caused problems for the house but in the end she's a really tough competitor. If the house votes by gameplay, (which they will unless Dan gets to the final two) then Keesha will be a lock to win it all. She's won many competitions and is an instrumental part of the gameplay this season. If it was down to Jerry and Keesha, then Keesha would win it all. It's not like Jerry has a lot of friends in this jury.


Memphis:

Which leaves Memphis. I think Jerry does have a shot to win it all against Memphis. There is some merit that if the 75 yr old guy gets to the end people may vote for Jerry. Memphis has hardly done anything, and won only one veto. He's not really a big part of the gameplay this season. Of course behind the scenes and in the live feeds, he is running the show. But Jerry does not know that. As far as Jerry sees it, Memphis is somewhat honorable and there's a chance he can live up to the deal. Jerry is essentially rolling the dice that Memphis would keep his word. Jerry knows that besides Dan (who there's no way he can make a deal with), Memphis is the next person that he can actually win against. Renny and Keesha are too tight for Jerry to make a deal with. As far as Jerry sees it, Dan put up Memphis on the block so there's a chance that Memphis may harbour some ill feelings towards Dan.

All in all Jerry is taking a risk that may not work out for him. However his options are very limited on what he can do. Making a deal with Dan is out of the question.
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