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08-07-2015 , 03:58 PM
bill does it because people above him tell him to. people above him tell him to because when some kid gets hit with a foul ball a jackass dad can sue them for it. everyone in jobs like that tell people not to do things that they dont personally give a **** about
08-07-2015 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
kids, players?

Im with bill. **** people who think they are entitled to do whatever they want and put pressure on him to enforce the actual rules. for all you know he recently got an earful from his boss about fans moving around
Then I guess that's on management, because the other usher didn't care a bit. Also, note that Bill is sitting in the second row. It's not that he cares whether people are walking down the steps, or moving from the 10th row to the 4th. He only cares if someone gets in his view.

And risk of injury is super LOL because it's between innings, nothing is happening.
08-07-2015 , 04:05 PM
Since many people in this thread have apparently never gone to a baseball game, here's how it works: the 3rd out of the inning is made and the players return to the dugout. If the 3rd out was made at the plate, the catcher is returning to the dugout with a baseball. Children then get as close as they can to ask the catcher to throw them the ball.

Saying there's a risk of injury in this scenario is ludicrous.
08-07-2015 , 04:07 PM
Are we sure that Bill works there? I assumed he was just a grouchy season ticket holder.
08-07-2015 , 04:14 PM
dkgo,

You are a Bill lover, son.

All,

You hop a flight to Austrailia and find out your row is empty. Awwww yisss time to lie down all over the seats until Stewardess Bill shows up and makes you sit up in 2C or whateva. This is how we got concentration camp guards. Smh.
08-07-2015 , 04:14 PM
Yes, he had lanyard/nametag. And received pass-down from previous usher.
08-07-2015 , 04:15 PM
Also, if Bill's boss is the real villiiiiian here why were kids allowed to run amok until the 7th inning?
08-07-2015 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
Assuming he puts both shoes on, of course.
In SF proper, one sock only, will get you by.
08-07-2015 , 05:31 PM
Falcon right.
08-07-2015 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RunDownHouse.
Since many people in this thread have apparently never gone to a baseball game, here's how it works: the 3rd out of the inning is made and the players return to the dugout. If the 3rd out was made at the plate, the catcher is returning to the dugout with a baseball. Children then get as close as they can to ask the catcher to throw them the ball.

Saying there's a risk of injury in this scenario is ludicrous.
Maybe bill doesn't wanna deal with kids running around on slick pavement or getting smacked in the face with a poorly delivered throw, maybe he's tired and wet and just wants people to do what they're supposed to - maybe the previous usher was just reprimanded for allowing them to do that exact same thing.

The point is it's really silly to get all in a huff about someone doing their job when a) you've never done it and b) aren't making a ****ty amount of pay to deal with ****ty people a huge % of the time
08-07-2015 , 05:37 PM
First time I went to a game when I was a kid, we got crappy tickets from a scalper and the usher offered to let us move down to really good seats for $20.
08-07-2015 , 05:41 PM
I tried to bribe an usher at a tool concert with $20 to let me on the floor, he said he wouldnt do it and none of the ushers there would. I went to the other side and tried the same thing, the usher let me on the floor and gave me my $20 back
08-07-2015 , 05:44 PM
jmakin,

I actually assumed he's a volunteer and not being paid at all, but I don't know how it works. In any case, if he doesn't want to deal with kids running around, or if he's just tired and wet, he can do exactly what every other usher was doing: nothing! Seriously, I'm on the fascist end of the spectrum when it comes to following rules, but enforcing seat rules - only for the row directly in front of you, mind, not ones behind you, and who even knows if there's actually a rule about walking to the end of the aisle - in the 7th inning and later of a rain-delayed, actively raining game at the home of a team completely out of competition is bad decision making all the way around. I could probably add even more qualifiers, but basically the only point of a Reds home game at this point is to provide a great fan experience.

Also, the "You've never done the job, you can't criticize it" argument is a supremely ****ty one.
08-07-2015 , 05:46 PM
It's not really a ****ty argument when you understand that basically this guy's only job is to ensure people are in the correct seats and aren't running around, and you're mad that he did exactly that.
08-07-2015 , 05:52 PM
Wait, do you really think that ushers at ballparks can tell people not to walk up and down the stairs? Maybe this is the root of your bad opinions.

EDIT: Actually ushers probably have a really wide range of things the company supports them doing. What I should have said is that, in general, they should not care about someone moving around to one of thousands of empty seats during breaks in play. The amount of judgement required to make this decision is small, as is evinced by one such usher making that judgement in this exact situation. Of course, people taking retail jobs often don't have enough critical thinking to make that call, so rules are put in place so the jmakins and Bills of the world can just follow a rule instead of making a decision.

Last edited by RunDownHouse.; 08-07-2015 at 05:58 PM.
08-07-2015 , 05:57 PM
He can tell people to get back to their seats if they're ruining the enjoyment of the game for others, which is presumably what he was doing in this scenario.

No, but I'm sure Bill just wakes up every morning dreaming of ruining some kid's day. That is his sole purpose in life. Totally something a "volunteer" dreams of doing every day at the ballpark.

And lol Reds.

It's just really funny to me that you ascribe malicious motives to this poor dude who HAS to sit in the rain watching a ****ty ballgame and isn't as dumb as you to have actually ****ing paid for it, no, this guy has to sit there and deal with people like you who get pissy with him when he tries to do his job.
08-07-2015 , 06:01 PM
I've been sitting in seats like those pretty much all season (going solo = great cheap seats) and it's totally standard for the first 6 or so innings for kids to come down to the dugout in between innings for balls. These kids generally have seats in the first 15-20 rows and near the aisle. As the game goes on that group will generally leave and new kids/parents move down to the good seats and try to pull the same move. Some ushers care, some don't. The usher by the away team's dugout usually tells the later inning kids to beeyoft. That might just be varience but that has been observation this year.

Btw, going to games solo is amazing.
08-07-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RunDownHouse.
Wait, do you really think that ushers at ballparks can tell people not to walk up and down the stairs? Maybe this is the root of your bad opinions.

EDIT: Actually ushers probably have a really wide range of things the company supports them doing. What I should have said is that, in general, they should not care about someone moving around to one of thousands of empty seats during breaks in play. The amount of judgement required to make this decision is small, as is evinced by one such usher making that judgement in this exact situation. Of course, people taking retail jobs often don't have enough critical thinking to make that call, so rules are put in place so the jmakins and Bills of the world can just follow a rule instead of making a decision.
Lol, they're not paid enough to make that judgment call and would likely be reprimanded for making judgment calls like that.

But like I said in the post above I'm sure he was just trying to get his jollies the best way he could, ruining children's hopes and dreams.
08-07-2015 , 06:06 PM
Lets not forget some of these volunteers actually sign up so they can finally be in a position of power/authority, a position they have little chance of getting to at any other point in their lives. Some will take this a little bit too seriously, ruining all the dreams without actually intending to do so.
08-07-2015 , 06:06 PM
Lots of people get off on enforcing whatever authority they have. My grandma lived in a retirement community full of white Jews in the middle of an entirely black neighborhood. Everyone had to wear their "Owner" or "Guest" tag visibly (either around the wrist or ankle) at all times. There were a few monitors who would go around checking for these tags, and if you didn't have it on you, kick you out of the pool area until you could produce your tag. There was zero chance any white kid in the pool wasn't a guest (and there were never any black kids), and the only reasons the monitors were enforcing the policy were because they liked the feeling of power it gave them, and because they were bitter that there were a bunch of kids around.
08-07-2015 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
He can tell people to get back to their seats if they're ruining the enjoyment of the game for others, which is presumably what he was doing in this scenario.
Wow, quite the presumption! Having been to baseball games before, and to this one specifically, I'd argue he was doing more to ruin the enjoyment of the game for fans (ie, the sad as **** kids in the picture) than any kids were ruining the enjoyment for others. That's all conjecture, though!

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Originally Posted by jmakin
No, but I'm sure Bill just wakes up every morning dreaming of ruining some kid's day. That is his sole purpose in life. Totally something a "volunteer" dreams of doing every day at the ballpark.
Lots of people get off on making others miserable. Whoever trainwrecked babs, for example, is probably just such a person.


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Originally Posted by jmakin
And lol Reds.
As a lifelong Cards fan, I couldn't agree more!


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Originally Posted by jmakin
It's just really funny to me that you ascribe malicious motives to this poor dude who HAS to sit in the rain watching a ****ty ballgame and isn't as dumb as you to have actually ****ing paid for it, no, this guy has to sit there and deal with people like you who get pissy with him when he tries to do his job.
For the record, I'm passive enough I didn't say anything to him, I just gave a kid my ticket so he had no recourse.
08-07-2015 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RunDownHouse.
Wow, quite the presumption! Having been to baseball games before, and to this one specifically, I'd argue he was doing more to ruin the enjoyment of the game for fans (ie, the sad as **** kids in the picture) than any kids were ruining the enjoyment for others. That's all conjecture, though!


Lots of people get off on making others miserable. Whoever trainwrecked babs, for example, is probably just such a person.



As a lifelong Cards fan, I couldn't agree more!



For the record, I'm passive enough I didn't say anything to him, I just gave a kid my ticket so he had no recourse.
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Originally Posted by Villian1
I've been sitting in seats like those pretty much all season (going solo = great cheap seats) and it's totally standard for the first 6 or so innings for kids to come down to the dugout in between innings for balls. These kids generally have seats in the first 15-20 rows and near the aisle. As the game goes on that group will generally leave and new kids/parents move down to the good seats and try to pull the same move. Some ushers care, some don't. The usher by the away team's dugout usually tells the later inning kids to beeyoft. That might just be varience but that has been observation this year.

Btw, going to games solo is amazing.
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08-07-2015 , 06:16 PM
You get seats like this:



Your wife doesn't bitch when you go to value town on the 1.50$ kids hot dogs.





You can get your pic taken with this guy:



and this guy.



You get to pre AND post game with some cheap beer and viticus.



And if you're lucky you come home with one of these guys.



Edit...this is from another solo game. It's not always perfect sitting relatively close. Sometimes people will stand up for absolutely no reason and block your view of home plate.


Last edited by Villian1; 08-07-2015 at 06:34 PM.
08-07-2015 , 06:24 PM
Sick Aubrey Huff jersey itt.

Always does my heart good to see all those home Ed Halicki jerseys at AT&T. Gotta give shout outs to the old guys!
08-07-2015 , 06:31 PM
I think the selfie stick discussion was in here? I just saw one in the wild for the first time. In SF Chinatown.

      
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