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View Poll Results: Do you want an Apple Tablet thing?
Yes, I will be camping out in front of my Apple Store a week before it comes out!
33 6.85%
I'll wait until the my Apple nerd friend buys it and tells me what he thinks before I decide.
85 17.63%
I'm fine with my current smartphone and laptop for my media needs.
203 42.12%
I wouldn't wipe my ass with the thing.
161 33.40%

02-01-2010 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I think the hope is that the iPad's non-support of flash will induce web designers to stop relying lazily on such a buggy program and come up with better solutions. If the iPad proves to be a popular vehicle for looking up restaurants, restaurants will have to adapt to the iPad or lose customers.
I have read some articles that have quoted designers as having begun to "deflashify" their future sites. Companies need the Mobile Web Access more than they need Flash on their sites.
02-01-2010 , 07:40 PM
not every video works on iphone/ipad from youtube, tho

and a lot of the target audience are the same ones who would want to play bejeweled, diner dash, chain rxn, etc and won't be able to since they are all in flash
02-01-2010 , 07:44 PM
Yea, but you will be able to play a full screen version of Flight Control that doesn't suck as much as the flash version I found so it evens out.
02-01-2010 , 08:04 PM
yeah, most of those flash games are being made into native iphone/ipod/ipad apps anyway

but u do have to pay for them instead of play for free

altho, i suppose with larger screen real estate, you'll see free apps that place ads around the game so you can play for free and just have ads on the sides like u do on the flash website

hulu and network websites is the biggest downside to no flash, as it'd be great to be able to watch any major tv show on the ipad
02-01-2010 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
yeah, most of those flash games are being made into native iphone/ipod/ipad apps anyway

but u do have to pay for them instead of play for free

altho, i suppose with larger screen real estate, you'll see free apps that place ads around the game so you can play for free and just have ads on the sides like u do on the flash website

hulu and network websites is the biggest downside to no flash, as it'd be great to be able to watch any major tv show on the ipad
I would expect the major sites to develop a non-flash version of their sites before Apple lets Flash on their platform. It's in the sites best interest to be compatible with the iPad and iPhone.
02-01-2010 , 08:22 PM
dukemagic,

awesome avatar/location!
02-01-2010 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TomW
imo, it's pretty lol for people to be complaining about no multitasking on these things. First of all, what ends up happening is some idiots are going to start 10 applications at once and then forget to close a few which results in a drained battery within an hour. Second of all, applications developed for this will be persistent and have speedy startup times so switching to and from apps should be seamless.
Thank god we have Apple to save us from ourselves. Hopefully Gen 2 will have a feature where you can't turn it on, therefore ensuring you never run out of battery.
02-01-2010 , 09:35 PM
It must hurt being that dumb. You should get some help for that.
02-01-2010 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Strange Loop
Thank god we have Apple to save us from ourselves. Hopefully Gen 2 will have a feature where you can't turn it on, therefore ensuring you never run out of battery.
haha awesome.
02-01-2010 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
hulu and network websites is the biggest downside to no flash, as it'd be great to be able to watch any major tv show on the ipad
Hulu not having an iPhone app is absolutely terrible, especially for a new company that's trying to make money. God forbid the TV networks show that they can actually do something right.
02-01-2010 , 11:53 PM
kerowo,

Is there some rational reason that you are such a rabid apple fanboy?
02-02-2010 , 12:55 AM
This isn't close to rabid and the worst outbursts have been saved for the stupidest posters. Is it as sweet a device as Jobs sold it as? Of course not, nothing ever is, but neither is it as pointless as the haters would have you believe. If it isn't going to do everything you want to do with a netbook, then buy a netbook. It amazes me that some of the pundits automatically assume that because they don't know how they would use the device means there is absolutely no market for it. It amuses me to hear people bitch about how locked down the environment is when you get the dev tools for free. What's that? You only run Windows? You don't hear me bitch at Microsoft for not providing dev tools that work on a Mac. Apple makes nice kit that has a higher margin than the rest of the industry. Do you think it's worth it? **** if I care, it's your money spend it how you want.
02-02-2010 , 01:12 AM
after this thing came out, i think i had the same reaction as most people are having, with the negatives outweighing the positives

i have to think that the economy over the past 30 months has something to do with it not being your typical blow your pants off apple device. i wouldnt call the entry level $499 cheap, but it's not exactly going to set people back 2 months salary either (do people still have jobs?).
02-02-2010 , 01:17 AM
$499 is much cheaper than most thought as well

i assumed before the announcement that it would be basically a 10" ipod touch, because that made sense, but i thought it'd be more expensive

i also hoped they'd finally get flash, but you can't always get what you want
02-02-2010 , 02:52 AM
Apple and Bose are the two tech companies I hate most.
02-02-2010 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by animal_chin
Apple and Bose are the two tech companies I hate most.
You'll love me then. I'm sitting here with my MacBook Air and Bose noise-canceling headphones listening to music (seriously).

I agree with you though to an extent - I bought both of these products a couple of years back after being brainwashed by the marketing, and they're both stupidly overpriced for what I've got out of them.
02-02-2010 , 08:27 AM
This video has been milked to death, but it could be amusing for the one or two people that haven't seen it before.

Hitler's reaction to the ipad
02-02-2010 , 08:32 AM
lol'd at

Spoiler:
the girl saying to the crying girl: 'Don't worry - you can use my netbook'
02-03-2010 , 11:47 AM
the iPad only costs $270 to Apple. sick profit margins.

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/03/that-...nalyst-is-ela/
02-03-2010 , 12:33 PM
Apple always make a huge profit margin on all their products.
02-03-2010 , 12:44 PM
If you guys knew the profit margins on every product sold in retail I don't think you'd be surprised at this.

Consider that they have to recoup their losses on R&D as well.
02-03-2010 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by oldgrandma18k
If you guys knew the profit margins on every product sold in retail I don't think you'd be surprised at this.

Consider that they have to recoup their losses on R&D as well.
they don't have much R&D costs. it's basically an iPod touch. they did design their own cpu though.
02-03-2010 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
they don't have much R&D costs. it's basically an iPod touch. they did design their own cpu though.
Yeah, and I think they did a pretty lol job at adding in that cost, tbh.

Standard R&D costs for chip makers seems to be in the teens of sales (at least as of 2006 http://www.emsnow.com/newsarchives/a...s.cfm?ID=13632) and, while I'm sure Apple didn't spend as much on their chip as TI does on it's latest top-of-line one, it's not cheap to design these things.

Of course, I have no idea if they've already accounted for their R&D spend in previous income statements or if they plan to amortize it over the next few years of iPad sales, so it's also possible that they've already accounted for these cost by taking a slight hit to profit margins over the past quarters/years and are ready to ball outta control with an almost 100% markup.
02-03-2010 , 01:20 PM
To clarify it's not just a CPU, it's a SoC (System on Chip)... which includes the CPU and at least the GPU and memory.

And making a big iPod touch isn't as easy as it sounds, especially one that is 0.5" thin, 1.5 pounds, with a month of standby battery life.
02-03-2010 , 08:39 PM
Didn't they buy ARM? How much did they pay for that?

      
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