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05-26-2014 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
Another obstacle could be common sense. Some people act like guns are the problem with stories like this.

He never would have hurt someone without a gun right? He's not crazy or anything. It's not like he also stabbed 3 people...oh wait, he did.
Do you go to UCSB as well?
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05-26-2014 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
Another obstacle could be common sense. Some people act like guns are the problem with stories like this.

He never would have hurt someone without a gun right? He's not crazy or anything. It's not like he also stabbed 3 people...oh wait, he did.
Oh stop. Gun control is about making it harder to have access to a weapon.

Do you think he kills/injures the same # of people with a knife instead of a gun?
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05-26-2014 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy
Do you go to UCSB as well?
LMAO!
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05-26-2014 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
Oh stop. Gun control is about making it harder to have access to a weapon.

Do you think he kills/injures the same # of people with a knife instead of a gun?
no
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05-26-2014 , 01:34 AM
I wonder how he felt when he starting banging on the sorority house door and no one answered.
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05-26-2014 , 01:38 AM
I think ozzy osbourne said something along the lines of "if guns don't kill but people do then why do we arm soldiers going to war? Why don't we just send the people?" And he fried his brain years ago.
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05-26-2014 , 01:39 AM
He planned on killing his little brother as well because he feared he would "surpass him".
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05-26-2014 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
Oh stop. Gun control is about making it harder to have access to a weapon.

Do you think he kills/injures the same # of people with a knife instead of a gun?
Gun control is about making it harder for law abiding citizens to aquire guns. Criminals don't follow laws so stronger gun control laws won't really affect them.

And I think he kills/injures enough people with his knife or car and less people if someone has a gun and stops him.
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05-26-2014 , 01:41 AM
One of the girls in his manifesto, Pollina Bubenheim, posted this now deleted message on her Google Plus page:

Elliot I never hated you. I was always trying to be nice to you and I felt sorry for you whenever I crossed your way because you would be scared of me. I greeted you when my family and your family had dinners together and I always acknowledged your existence. I knew they didnt care much about you but I felt your pain. I remember one yime you were out riding your bike and you saw me and you dropped thr bike onto the ground and ran off. But I guess you hated me because I was the typical girl you considered beautiful and I had a boyfriend back then already and I brought him to your house. Im truly heartbroken, all those lives including your own are now lost. And I read your 148 page paper you wrote to express yourself and I saw my name in it including my two brothers my moms and my stepdads. You also envied my brother leos life because he was " socially accepted had a lot of friends blonde hair blue eyes and was a skaterboy" which manifested you and made you feel very jealous of him. I just wished you could hear this now and see things in other peoples perspectives. You were a good looking guy but you basically made girls not want you because you were so stand off about them or at least in my experience. I was never a "bitch " to you. You wouldnt even let me talk to you. You awkwardly would look away from me all the time and studder when ot if you talked and leave everyones sight and hide back in your room to play hours and hours world of warcraft on your computer intead of sociallyb interacting with other kids.
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05-26-2014 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
Gun control is about making it harder for law abiding citizens to aquire guns. Criminals don't follow laws so stronger gun control laws won't really affect them.

And I think he kills/injures enough people with his knife or car and less people if someone has a gun and stops him.
LOL. Then why have laws, AMIRITE?

Stronger gun laws WILL affect them. It's called supply and demand. Think about it and don't regurgitate something you heard from the NRA.
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05-26-2014 , 01:44 AM
wow that sister is smoking.
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05-26-2014 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
Gun control is about making it harder for law abiding citizens to aquire guns. Criminals don't follow laws so stronger gun control laws won't really affect them.

And I think he kills/injures enough people with his knife or car and less people if someone has a gun and stops him.
But he was killing in a place where there is little gun control and in the end it was the police that stopped him, not a law abiding citizen with a gun.

Plus he bought his guns from a store. Not some black market connection he found through criminal activity.
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05-26-2014 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tr0nllam
One of the girls in his manifesto, Pollina Bubenheim, posted this now deleted message on her Google Plus page:
Wow from the tone of his vids you'd think he was trying and getting knocked back on a weekly basis, not literally running away from girls.
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05-26-2014 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
LOL. Then why have laws, AMIRITE?

Stronger gun laws WILL affect them. It's called supply and demand. Think about it and don't regurgitate something you heard from the NRA.
I did think about it, that's how I came to the conclusion that laws don't affect what a criminal will or will not do.

A criminal is someone who breaks the law...so making a law won't stop them from doing something.
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05-26-2014 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bingsa
But he was killing in a place where there is little gun control and in the end it was the police that stopped him, not a law abiding citizen with a gun.

Plus he bought his guns from a store. Not some black market connection he found through criminal activity.
All of that may be true but it doesn't refute anything I said if it is.
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05-26-2014 , 01:54 AM
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A criminal is someone who breaks the law...so making a law won't stop them from doing something.
So it shouldn't be illegal to steal cars considering criminals will steal them anyway?
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05-26-2014 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
I did think about it, that's how I came to the conclusion that laws don't affect what a criminal will or will not do.

A criminal is someone who breaks the law...so making a law won't stop them from doing something.
So why have laws in the first place?

You obviously didn't think about it. If it's harder to get access to a weapon, it's harder to commit a crime w/ that weapon. Can't you at least see that?

And before you say the NRA line of "you can kill someone with a car!", realize that cars are used for transportation whereas guns are used to kill.
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05-26-2014 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bingsa
So it shouldn't be illegal to steal cars considering criminals will steal them anyway?
Yes that's exactly what I meant. Great job putting it together. Pretty bad analogy.
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05-26-2014 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
All of that may be true but it doesn't refute anything I said if it is.
How would he have got the gun with stronger gun laws? Checked every alley for a shady guy standing next to a van?
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05-26-2014 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
Yes that's exactly what I meant. Great job putting it together. Pretty bad analogy.
It's really not. You are the one saying criminals don't follow the law. So if they don't follow the law, why have laws in the first place?
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05-26-2014 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by catlax30
Yes that's exactly what I meant. Great job putting it together. Pretty bad analogy.
This is what you posted cat:

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A criminal is someone who breaks the law...so making a law won't stop them from doing something.
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05-26-2014 , 02:03 AM
I mean catlax, this dude was 100% psycho and yet was able to legally purchase the guns he used.

You don't see something wrong with that?

Think about the craziest person you know. Maybe it's a family member, friend or co-worker. Would you trust that person with a gun under stressful conditions?
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05-26-2014 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bingsa
This is what you posted cat:
Gun control laws are preventative laws. Laws against stealing provide consequences after the fact so they are different.

But u probably think guns r bad Mmmmk. So you are probably going to just throw some other illogical analogy at me next.
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05-26-2014 , 02:09 AM
If you are caught with a gun you are not supposed to have, what do you suppose the consequence would be? Nothing?
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05-26-2014 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
I mean catlax, this dude was 100% psycho and yet was able to legally purchase the guns he used.

You don't see something wrong with that?

Think about the craziest person you know. Maybe it's a family member, friend or co-worker. Would you trust that person with a gun under stressful conditions?
I think there is something wrong with him having a gun. But stronger gun control laws aren't the real issue. The real issue is that he is crazy and shouldn't have had access to anything he could've used to harm someone else with. THe person is the problem, not the gun.
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