Even if the lifters know it's a fight to the death they won't all keep charging forward when the gorilla starts snapping limbs with one hand. I think if the lifters were drugged to eliminate any fear of death and up their pain tolerance they'd have a much better chance.

I agree with you that the human body is way more vulnerable. But I also think everyone else is assuming they are fighting something that is like 2x the size and strength of a normal gorilla, and is apparently a killing machine rather than a docile herbivore who makes sure to pound it's chest and throw vegetables before it starts to fight another silverback to the death.

People also keep throwing around that gorillas have way more stamina when humans are the best long distance running animals on the planet. I would love to see a reference that gorillas have more stamina. (I am allowing the possibility they may have more anaerobic stamina, but just assuming the gorilla will last longer vs. 12 elite power athletes without something to support it is stupid). Most evidence would suggest the gorilla will tire way before 12 elite human athletes of similar size.

The psychological hurdle is indeed a possible issue, but why are we completely ignoring the very likely possiblity the gorilla will get scared when in a ring with 12 huge primates of similar size to itself? ffs, it throws vegetables at "step 4" in its 9 stage process when it's fighting ONE other primate to the death. The powerlifters are already on drugs which drastically affect their aggressiveness. What do you think will happen when someone (edit: 12 of them. That can bench half a ton each.) in a roid rage knows his life is in danger?

And as you can see most people on the "100% gorilla" side are assuming this gorilla is King Kong with statements like

Yeah, if we're fighting a cartoon gorilla that is 800 pounds and can knock someone's head off with the flick of its finger then the powerlifters won't win.

You mean like if they were in a roid rage?

LOL instinctual behavior. It doesn't matter whether gorillas instinctually fight in the wild. When threatened in a confined space, the gorilla's instinct to survive will kick in.

I will say this. I would rather fight a silverback in an enclosed space than a lion.

in all seriousness, its apparent that no 1 in this thread as been close to even a 80pound monkey thats a little aggressive.. even with a machete they scare the **** out of me.. those fkers could prob bench press 600pound at 80bw

Animals are ALWAYS much stronger than they appear. And gorillas already look ****ing herculean.

Nou.

The strength of the body builders is not cumulative the way some are suggesting. The gorilla is stronger, faster, and more agile than every single BB individually, and also stronger than each small group of BBs that some are suggesting they should break into to grab individual limbs.

Granted it's an animal (and a relatively peaceful one), but if the conditions of the OP apply (gorilla knows it's a fight to the death) then the humans are toast.

I think it's pretty interesting that the only person who knew someone that works in a zoo reported that the zoo vet tech also predicted gorilla in a landslide. It would take an unusual amount of things to go right for the men to have much of a chance.

these guys can make it happen



http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wor...th-1692716.php

Pretty sure 12 strongmen could find a way to pin the gorilla down and then just stomp his face in? I think 6 strongmen would be a fair fight.

And LOL at the fact that the gorilla knowing it's a fight to the death changes things. Pretty sure that that is assumed in every fight they get in with gorillas of another troop. I could be thinking of Chimpanzee's though who go on canibal hunting missions.

laugh of the day.

This is interesting like Hostel is interesting. Noble efforts by shoe and matt I guess to turn this into a debate but not really.

The humans that are the best long distance running animals on the planet look like this:




Powerlifters do not train for stamina. When is last time you saw a powerlifter run a mara...hell, when is the last time you saw a powerlifter run? Really big guys will tire pretty quickly.

And FFS stop throwing around the ridiculous line 'bench a half ton'. No human in the history of the world has come close to benching 'a half ton' without a bench shirt. The record for a raw bench (no shirt) is 715. Do you really think that wearing a bench shirt is going to give the powerlifters a better chance against the Silverback?

lol english hard

12 man onslaught?

95% of you won't know what the hell I'm talking about.

These guys weigh pretty much the same as a Gorilla. Did you read that they were some of the strongest men alive? And it's annoying that people keep bringing up how the Gorilla is an animal and that somehow changes things or adds in an animal factor. You know that we're animals too, right?

Thats one hell of a presumption. Its not rocket science. You spelled it out well enough.

Matt, I concede that I was overestimating the animal and underestimating the humans. I also think you're underestimating the animal and overestimating the humans.

Even at 400 lbs. the ape's body structure makes it invulnerable to virtually any conventional attacks the humans would attempt. And at 400lbs. it may not be as strong as a grizzly but its strength is much closer to that of a grizzly than that of a powerlifter. And yes, literally enough strength to decapitate these big dudes with a bitchslap. Not to mention that it has a huge advantage in coordination and agility, especially in comparison to these guys that are so stocked up they cant even scratch their own back. Then the ape has some serious canines etc. etc.

Lol at humans being the best long distance running species on the planet. Let's see the greatest marathon runner in the world race an wolf or just an ordinary dog 50 miles. The human has no chance. Humans are far far far from the best long distance runners.

And stocked up bodybuilders arent gonna have anything near a marathon runners stamina. I'm estimating that the bb with an adrenaline exerting at full strength is gonna reach exhaustion 10 minutes at the very most.

I know there's a lot freaks out the there that think humans can wrestle alligators and outrun caribou and overpower a black bear outswim a dolphin etc etc. And humans have accomplished some tremedous physical feats but the truth is that in comparison to these wild animals our bodies have evolved to become very soft and vulnerable and we need instruments as weapons because all of ours have evolved away. We've learned to manipulate our environment to the extent that these are no longer needed and fallen away.

12 tough dudes with no weapons vs. virtually any wild animal locked in a cage is basically suicide for the humans.

I think 12 dudes vs a chimp is a bit more fair but I still dont see the humans killing the lil sob100%.

You are wrong. Some animals would beat humans at a regular marathon, but when you increase the distance to 50+ miles we are the best.

The following videos of 125-150 pound chimps make it pretty clear to me that 400 lb gorilla is going to be very formidable.

Go to :30. Chimp manhandles person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5vE3VQdLa4


Go to 2:30. Chimp smashes car window like it was nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5vE3VQdLa4

Good stuff. Also check this out, the woman that Travis the chimp went after with zero provocation. Her face is ****ed, one of her hands is missing the other is near a stump. All from an unarmed chimp 1/3 the weight of a gorilla.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvH8Z-QToc0

and to be fair to the humans - women are genetically weaker then men and a woman who doesn't lift and has never exercised any ligaments or tendons is going to be even easier to rip apart.

Think of it like trying to tear the white pages phone book in half and then think about doing it to the entire yellow + white pages.

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12 body builders carrying oats, imo. One or two sacrifice themselves to distract the ape, and the rest throw their oats at its face and eyes.

one body builder must be sacrificed and torn apart.
out of his limbs you can make clubs or spears, out of his bones e.g. ripcage you can make daggers, and his guts make a good sling/rope to strangulate the gorrilla. you can also use the head as a throwing weapon like dodgeball.

and yes, i am a psycho.