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01-13-2012 , 03:27 PM
Prob not a highly credible source but:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...full-grown-man

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In tests at the Bronx Zoo in 1924, a dynamometer*— a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring*— was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall, being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.) In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.
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01-13-2012 , 03:38 PM
Gorillas are friendly guys, here is one protecting a young lad that fell into the enclosure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUGT...feature=fvwrel
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01-13-2012 , 03:41 PM
This thread has given me the urge to redbox the new Planet of the Apes
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01-13-2012 , 03:44 PM
You'll be disappointed because the actual human-ape fighting is few and far between.
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01-13-2012 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkTank43
This thread has given me the urge to redbox the new Planet of the Apes
tons of sweet monkey-on-monkey and monkey-on-man action

strictly from that angle, I highly recommend it
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01-13-2012 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mephisto
You'll be disappointed because the actual human-ape fighting is few and far between.
flip a coin, SharkTank
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01-13-2012 , 03:50 PM
This thread is making me want to watch gladiator again.
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01-13-2012 , 03:56 PM
i love this thread. im on the power lifters side. 12 massive men all stuck together and shoulder charged that fuker he's not going to know what hit him.
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01-13-2012 , 04:09 PM
I'm thinking the best bet is for them to encircle it, one guyat the front charges/.sacrifices himself, 4 behind jump on his back/legs. You trying to tell me having over 1000lbs of man hanging off you isn't going to slow you down? Hopefully the guys from behind can take him down, maybe a couple drop kicks to the back of the knees. For all the people saying "oh you're underestimating gorilla strenght". Well many people are underestimating 300lbs power lifter strenght too.

I'm thinking it's pretty close to 50-50, just because there are so many unknowns. Could be a total blowout either way. I'm assuming the guys are in an enclosed area and know they're not getting out alive unless the gorilla is dead.
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01-13-2012 , 04:14 PM
lol..."drop kicks"

Yeah, that'll do it.
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01-13-2012 , 04:14 PM
rofl this has nothing to do about strength in the absolute sense.

One swipe from a gorilla, or a fist pound, even at half strength basically wrecks the human anywhere he hits. Whereas a human punching a gorilla to do enough damage to immobilize him? LOL you guys joking? He's built to fight much more well than humans could ever. Think you can pile up on him? Reconsider when he chews through your shoulder in a couple of bites.

This isnt even close guys.
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01-13-2012 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zipppy
For visual context, here is a close approximation of what these competitors look like next to each other, taking into account average height of a silverback.

swing the kid as a weapon?
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01-13-2012 , 04:22 PM
based on that above youtube I think its optimal to have the kid play dead and attack him from behind while he is checking on the kid to make sure he's ok. can blindside him pretty badly in this spot.
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01-13-2012 , 04:28 PM
gorilla wins AINEC
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01-13-2012 , 04:32 PM
if 12 men all weighing 150kgs charge at a silverback weighing 200 kgs he can get 1 or 2 swipes in before there is about 1.5 tonnes smashing into him. once hes on his back, hes getting pounded from every direction, if he manages to get his feet, remaining men charge him again. gg gorilla
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01-13-2012 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinocchio
12 massive men all stuck together and shoulder charged that fuker he's not going to know what hit him.
Well you're right that he won't know what hit him. "Was that jungle breeze? was that anaconda fart? Kong dammit, that was anaconda fart wasn't it. But this smells different than that, this smells like...protein powder. Oh great did I step in human again? Oo, oo, ah, ah, I see dead people, my bad guys, ohhh the simianity"
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01-13-2012 , 04:41 PM
Lol this thread is good
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01-13-2012 , 04:51 PM
Proper Gorilla Strategy

Your primary goal is to constantly be fighting as few healthy humans as possible at the same time. Isolate, strike quickly, move away, and reevaluate.

Rule #1: If, at any time, one of the humans is dumb enough to leave the group (possibly in an attempt to get behind you) immediately charge him and **** him up something awful. Strike quickly and then immediately turn around and face the rest of the humans. Don't let them get behind you.

Rule #2
: If they all try to rush you at once, start calmly jogging in the opposite direction knowing that you are twice as fast as them and they will tire out first. Continue jogging slowly, occasionally looking backwards. When the opportunity arises, slug the one closest to you and then keep on jogging.

Rule #3: If they clump together in a group and none of them seems to be approaching, circle them, bang your chest, and roar at them. If one of them pisses himself or in some other way demonstrates fear, he is your first target. Continue circling the group (for hours if necessary) until you find yourself in a position where the scared human is closest to you. Strike very quickly, move away, repeat. If anyone of them attempts to fashion a weapon out of a dead human's bones, he is your next target.

Rule #4: Reduce their numbers using a combination of the above three rules. Hopefully, you have killed or injured most of them by the time you sense yourself getting tired. At this point, you are at a huge advantage because not only are half of them dead, but the remaining humans' morale is low and they see your fighting style as mostly defensive up until this point; take advantage of this and charge. Take out the biggest healthy one first. It should be over in less than a minute.

Last edited by Tapow Dayok; 01-13-2012 at 05:06 PM. Reason: OR, you know, **** it. Just charge em right away. You're a goddamn gorilla and this really isn't going to be close regardless
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01-13-2012 , 04:59 PM
Good luck trying to convince some alpha-male bodybuilder to sacrifice himself to give the others a decent shot at trying to disable the gorilla.
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01-13-2012 , 05:11 PM
I think the most interesting variation of this is to give the humans PCP or some other type of drug where they become more animalistic, for lack of a better term.

Then it becomes the gorilla's one on few strength and speed advantage vs. the combined strength/weight advantage of the crazed humans.

This could be a real contest, IMO. But otherwise you are going to have a hard time convincing a few of the humans to sacrifice themselves and try to jam their arms down the beast's throat, not to mention the terror factor when the other humans see how easily someone who makes a mistake gets dispatched.

The spread out and circle the animal is hands-down the dumbest strategy, though.
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01-13-2012 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by blayney87
I mean do you remember what Travis the chimp did to that lady?

(Sound NSFW) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgS0KgT5APc

Animals don't **** around, they are brutal.
GOD, that 911 operator so ****ing stupid it hurts.
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01-13-2012 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinocchio
i love this thread. im on the power lifters side. 12 massive men all stuck together and shoulder charged that fuker he's not going to know what hit him.
He would probably just launch himself out of the way then attack from the flank and slaughter them. He wouldn't just sit there and let them swarm him and he certainly wouldn't be dumb enough to attack the mob head on.

If they are in any type of open area, he'd just run away and probably around them. If they are in a smaller enclosure he'd climb if possible.
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01-13-2012 , 05:17 PM
It is oddly comforting to know that there are other people out there who want to passionately debate this topic.

I got your back dudes.
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01-13-2012 , 05:19 PM
A Gorilla escaped and hurt a 57 year old woman in a zoo in The Netherlands. Not really relevant, but interesting. The woman was hurt fairly badly, though any of the powerlifters could easily seriously injure a woman as well. The woman had 100 bite wounds, two fractures, but apparently recovered ok. Not saying the gorilla tried to kill her.

The gorilla only attacked her. She had been a regular visitor to the gorilla enclosure - as much as 4 times per week. She would tap the glass and make eye contact with the alpha - which they view as a threat. She had been warned not to do this by staff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokito_(gorilla)
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01-13-2012 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Aytumious
He would probably just launch himself out of the way then attack from the flank and slaughter them. He wouldn't just sit there and let them swarm him and he certainly wouldn't be dumb enough to attack the mob head on.

If they are in any type of open area, he'd just run away and probably around them. If they are in a smaller enclosure he'd climb if possible.
i thought we were in a cage? yeah in a open space this strat would be terrible
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