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07-17-2009 , 02:29 AM
No, the book im talking about is a NL book, and I *think* its the only one theyve done. And if anyone thinks that book is "worth thousands of dollars to full-time mid-stakes players", well lol @ that.
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07-17-2009 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ML4L
Hey all,

Last reply that I'll post because I don't want to keep bumping indefinitely. I appreciate all of the responses. Next step will be to read a couple of the newer books that I haven't gotten my hands on. Bobbo's e-book is first up; I'm a little bit concerned that there would be significant overlap there. I also want to grab the new 2+2 heads-up NL book; I would expect that to be heavily theory-based. If I still feel like I have something to offer at that point, I'll start cobbling together an outline.
I wrote a bunch of stuff on each of the ebooks (fees, bobbos, ssnlhe, slowhabbis, balugas) but figured this isnt a review thread. So will just offer the comment at the end:


All of them offered real, major advantages but in different ways due to their different writing approaches. I wonder if it would be best if you don't read any other books before you write yours - that way there will be a lot of new ideas that differ from in the other books, but if you read the other books you might just assume they are identical, when in fact there are nuances or different levels of understandings that you have, or you might conceptualize ideas in a different way that helps people understand things more deeply.

I suspect reading other peoples books before finishing at least your first draft, will hinder your unique perspective on what you write about.






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Originally Posted by MatthewRyan
No, the book im talking about is a NL book, and I *think* its the only one theyve done. And if anyone thinks that book is "worth thousands of dollars to full-time mid-stakes players", well lol @ that.
ffs it's not the same one
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07-18-2009 , 05:55 PM
im curious, does anyone think any of the ebooks are worth reading?

or would reading any of them give me the same reaction MR had

the ed miller ebook that was referenced contains such eye-opening topics as:
* Introduction: Why $1-$2 6-Max?
* Stealing The Blinds And Playing Position
* Profiling Opponents And Putting Them On Ranges
* Barreling
* Going For Value And Controlling The Pot
* 3-Betting Light And The 3-Bet, 4-Bet, 5-Bet Game
* Isolating Bad Players
* Handling Opposing Aggression
* Making Specific Preflop Decisions
* Putting It Together
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07-19-2009 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewRyan
No, the book im talking about is a NL book, and I *think* its the only one theyve done. And if anyone thinks that book is "worth thousands of dollars to full-time mid-stakes players", well lol @ that.
He was writing about Small Stakes No-Limit Hold’em, which came out last month.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/33...-ebook-510735/
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07-19-2009 , 10:46 PM
Not that it matters what I think, ML4L, but I went back and read many of your old posts and I think that I would be interested in reading almost anyhting that you wrote on NLHE.
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07-20-2009 , 10:49 AM
I would buy it.
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07-20-2009 , 11:02 AM
there's only one poker book i want to see come out. and it is a faux-strategy book written by Ivey at the expense of all of the cash game grinders.

we all ship him $100, and in return he writes 200 pages of total bs that n00b ******s will try to implement at the tables.

"When I play poker, I play every hand like it's my last. The number one goal in poker is to fight for every single pot." etc etc.

cover to cover bad ideas. it will be the best thing to happen to poker since moneymaker.
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07-22-2009 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ML4L
Hey all,

As some of you may know, I used to be a frequent poster in the HSNL forum. A few years ago, I was one of the first mid/high stakes players to branch out into coaching. At that time, I also began writing a strategy book for NLHE. A couple of years ago, for a variety of reasons, I stopped coaching, cut back dramatically on my play (stakes and frequency), and stopped posting on 2+2. I also stopped working on my book.

Since that time, a number of NLHE strategy books have come out. Even though some of the most valuable concepts are now well-documented, each time I read a NLHE strategy book, I come away with the feeling that I still have something to add. For the first time in a couple of years, I'm thinking about acting on that feeling.

But, before I invest the time and effort, I'm curious as to whether there is still a group of people who would be interested in what I write? Even if there isn't, I might do it just for the sense of accomplishment, but I figure that I should probably have an idea of the situation before I dive back in. And, of course, if I do move forward, I suspect that I'll start posting some again, which would hopefully allow some folks to become familiar with my writing.

So, below is a poll to help me gauge interest in my book. Some background information on the book: its aim will be to present the theoretical framework that I've used throughout my career. Much of the underlying theory will not be groundbreaking at this point; the main value will lie in the way that the material is presented. I'm going to need to do some research with respect to pricing (seems like the going rate for poker knowledge has jumped quite a bit since I've been away). My guess at this point is somewhere between $50 and $100, but obviously the market will dictate that. I'd like to keep the price low enough such that, even if the reader only learns one or two new concepts/perspectives, the book will pay for itself many times over.

Anyway, thanks in advance to those who respond. Sorry to clutter the forum with a non-strategy post (I did pre-clear with the mods).

ML4L
Hi Everyone:

I just found out about this thread. Apparently it was deleted a couple of days ago as violating our self-promotion rules. But when looking at it, in my opinion, that does not appear to be the case. So I have re-opened it for discussion.

Best wishes,
Mason
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07-24-2009 , 01:45 PM
@OP: I'll read it if the content is not too close to Bobbo's book.
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07-24-2009 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonystic
there's only one poker book i want to see come out. and it is a faux-strategy book written by Ivey at the expense of all of the cash game grinders.

we all ship him $100, and in return he writes 200 pages of total bs that n00b ******s will try to implement at the tables.

"When I play poker, I play every hand like it's my last. The number one goal in poker is to fight for every single pot." etc etc.

cover to cover bad ideas. it will be the best thing to happen to poker since moneymaker.
This.
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07-24-2009 , 02:04 PM
Someone with 11 bracelets already got the same idea.
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07-24-2009 , 03:07 PM
It seems like there is now an anbundance of NLHE cash game guides right now in the form of books, e-books, videos, audios, websites, forums, software. There used to be drought but not anymore. Some of the information is repeated by slapping on a new name for an old concept. Should someone write another one? I suppose if they had some new angle to it.
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07-24-2009 , 08:15 PM
Always interested in a theoretic approach; An incurable poker book junkie; Can't afford $1K books but can afford $50. I suppose that means I would buy.
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07-24-2009 , 09:16 PM
There's only one person who's opinion matters here: ML4L. The best writers, and the ones who profit by it the most, are the ones who write because they love it. Obviously, not everyone who loves to write will ever complete anything that will sell, but from the tone of your original post I don't think that's the linchpin motive here.

I'd be careful about stepping into the e-book realm, though. If your work isn't intended to be groundbreaking, but instead is a fresh delivery of current concepts, then it probably would be panned by the natural constituency of an e-book. It may be more sensible to pursue mainstream publishing to attract more of a beginner/recreational reader base. Perhaps its my optomistic view of the future, but I sense the possibility that our situation in America will improve over the next year or two, and your book would be ready for market at the perfect time. I hope so anyway, for all our sakes.

If you have the desire to write this book, then by all means you should.
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07-25-2009 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by QuickLearner
There's only one person who's opinion matters here: ML4L.

If you have the desire to write this book, then by all means you should.
+1

Go for it dude!
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07-25-2009 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by QuickLearner
Perhaps its my optomistic view of the future, but I sense the possibility that our situation in America will improve over the next year or two
Hahahah ... are you ***** kidding. This is like looking at a person who was in a car wreck, and both legs completely crushed beyond recognition and says:
"I think he's gonna be alllllllllllllllright "


Seriously.
What
The
Fark


Do you have any idea AT ALL what is going on in your own country??
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07-25-2009 , 03:56 PM
WRITE IT ! ! !
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07-25-2009 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramdon
Hahahah ... goofy political rant...
Feel better? No ad hominem attacks from you are required.
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07-26-2009 , 01:38 AM
yes please do it..ill def buy it
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07-26-2009 , 09:24 PM
do it
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07-26-2009 , 09:46 PM
yes please do it
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07-29-2009 , 12:38 PM
ML4L--

Yes, I'd be thrilled if you wrote the book (and I'd buy it).

All my best,

--Nate
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