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Mastering Pot Limit Omaha - The Modern Aggressive Approach by H. Okolowitz and W. Taschner Mastering Pot Limit Omaha - The Modern Aggressive Approach by H. Okolowitz and W. Taschner

10-15-2014 , 01:51 PM
This book just got released and published by D&B Publishing.

Anyone know anything about this book?
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10-15-2014 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by avatar77
This book just got released and published by D&B Publishing.

Anyone know anything about this book?
It just got released by D&B Publishing.
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10-16-2014 , 01:49 PM
Got it yesterday. A solid good book. Read half of it so far. It has more or less the theoretical bases we much know already, plus some new points and things. The preflop part, combined to 3b, 4b, so far is looking smart solid play, nitty at some points, so this is not some modern aggressive way to go but is pointing out the relativity of situations that make it possible to be more aggressive, or less aggressive. The blind defence isnt a subject as ranges. The flop chapter is some 30 pages and has theoretical factors also like as flop types. There is 100 pages about 15 hands i havent read yet, something about turn and river is likely there, but no separate turn and river chapters in this book. Maybe this book gets me to improve a level, that i am aiming at this time, but it wont come to me as some major new things learned anymore but as getting a bit better here and there and thinking about my game further. I have some hopes this book can help me that much, but need to wait and see.
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10-16-2014 , 02:22 PM
thanks 6471849653,
how would you compare this to other established works by Jeff Hwang, Rolf Slotboom and even the 2+2 book?
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10-17-2014 , 09:44 AM
Is it more suited to Live PLO or online?
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10-17-2014 , 07:23 PM
I just got this book, mainly because the lack of literature on PLO in general. Haven't gotten a chance to read through it yet, though, but I flipped through the pages and it looked pretty good.
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10-22-2014 , 12:19 AM
6max or full table? in some ways it doesn't matter than much, but i am wondering if it's hyper-shorthanded online advice? thanks in advance
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11-14-2014 , 11:05 PM
The whang books gave me the basic strategy for plo, and comparing that to this book, whang is included from more or less parts, and the flop types i already knew.

The really new thing for me was at the 100 pages of hand examples, that puts the theoretical optimal strategy probably from the book the intelligent poker player, in plo, with a lot of detail, about the ranges one should optimally check, call, raise etc. with. It will now be necessary to use more optimal balanced strategies.

It is about 6 max online cash. The 100 pages of hand examples are from 5 10 6 max online and its balanced strategies are from there and are mostly heads up situations.
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11-24-2014 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
6max or full table? in some ways it doesn't matter than much, but i am wondering if it's hyper-shorthanded online advice? thanks in advance
Hi guys, I am one of the authors of the book and wanted to reply to some of your questions, so let's start with the first one.

The book is focused on standard 6-max situations, so mostly heads-up pots and 3-way.
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11-24-2014 , 08:39 AM
Thanks for your review 6471849653!

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Originally Posted by 6471849653
The preflop part, combined to 3b, 4b, so far is looking smart solid play, nitty at some points, so this is not some modern aggressive way to go but is pointing out the relativity of situations that make it possible to be more aggressive, or less aggressive.
The nittyness in some respects may be explained by the target group, which is mainly players on the low stakes who wish to improve their game. Since gameplay there is somehow more nitty even our concrete advice on ranges might look nitty, but as you mentioned as well we tried to give a lot of hints how to adjust ranges against loser or tighter opponents as well.

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There is 100 pages about 15 hands i havent read yet, something about turn and river is likely there, but no separate turn and river chapters in this book.
It was a tough decision to not include extensive theoretic chapters about turn and river play, but this is covered in the hand example part. Reason being that already turn and river becomes so complex from a theoretical point of view that we decided to talk about these topics in concrete examples rather than just mentioning some general theoretic aspects most of the readers might already know.

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I have some hopes this book can help me that much, but need to wait and see.
I hope so too and curious on your further feedback!
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11-24-2014 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FreshmanCasual
Is it more suited to Live PLO or online?
Our main focus lied on online games, but the principles should be valid for live play too
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12-23-2014 , 06:22 AM
How would you describe the content of this book, theory heavy (a la The Intelligent Poker Player or EHUNLHE) or more concrete advice?

Would love a theory heavy PLO book...
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12-23-2014 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TianYuan
How would you describe the content of this book, theory heavy (a la The Intelligent Poker Player or EHUNLHE) or more concrete advice?

Would love a theory heavy PLO book...
Hi TianYuan, If you look earlier in the thread the post from 6471849653 is informative. You can also see a 24 page extract on dandbpoker.com or use lookinside on Amazon. This should give you a fair idea if the book will be useful to you.
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12-24-2014 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Byron Jacobs
Hi TianYuan, If you look earlier in the thread the post from 6471849653 is informative. You can also see a 24 page extract on dandbpoker.com or use lookinside on Amazon. This should give you a fair idea if the book will be useful to you.
Thanks, I'll check out the excerpts!
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12-25-2014 , 03:17 PM
Just read the excerpt I think there is a mistake on the last page. A259 makes a rivered straight on QT435 instead of being a bluff.
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12-26-2014 , 09:01 PM
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Hi guys, I am one of the authors of the book
Do you have any other books?
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12-27-2014 , 02:41 PM
Would this book be useful PLO tournaments??
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01-16-2015 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Inv
Do you have any other books?
No other poker books
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01-16-2015 , 04:48 AM
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Would this book be useful PLO tournaments??
The book doesn't treat tournament specific decision making, like chip ev, bubbles etc, but it will help you for tournaments in the sense that you get some insights how board textures interact with ranges for instance, which can be very helpful in tournament play too. There is a chapter about SPRs, which can be applied to the early, middle or late tournament situations with deeper or shorter stacks too.
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01-19-2015 , 01:38 AM
I was really looking forward to this book, but as a live player I was ultimately disappointed. It truly is for online play exclusively, and really 6-max exclusively due to the emphasis on heads-up play. The authors may say the principles apply to live play as well, but much of the analysis and play rely heavily on detailed player stats, the kind only available with online stat tracking software. It would be virtually impossible to have that kind of database for live play. You might be able to approximate or interpolate, but I don't think it's really relevant.

It doesn't state anywhere on the book that it's for online or 6-max play.

Still no replacement for "the Gospel according to Hwang" for live play, the PLO bible in 4 effective volumes.
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11-29-2015 , 12:11 PM
Has anyone read this book recently? Looking for some 6 max PLO reading material..
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11-29-2015 , 03:11 PM
I am about to purchase this book, also new to the forums. Have found myself playing a lot of PLO8 6Max online. I'm doing pretty good at this game as it matches my personality, but I would like to be better.

Any recommended Threads, or books to talk about hands, or improve my game?

Thanks!
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11-30-2015 , 02:29 AM
It is the latest and most advanced plo book. If i wouldnt put all my time to playing, i could use this book for further thinking about flop types, strategy, gto. I read janda also, helps me somewhat at plo also. I have read the hwang books, and one learns a strategy there, but mainly with this book i would need more study to improve further, additionally to all experience and feel stuffs one gets by playing.

Much of the basics of preflop and flop play and gto one gets with one reading, but one could learn more, from this book, including the turn and river, though not all covered, the mains can be to further study the flop stuffs and then use the gto stuffs to think about plo gto and bluff ranges. At this time i dont so need it as my main focus when playing is the opponent, his hand or so, the moment, the semi thinking understanding and experience of the board. But if i would need to think more about the flop types, somewhat like in the gold book, and strategy, including the gto, then this book could help still more. But not an easy digest beyond the first read.

The plo8 book i have read once should be the best out there, called pot limit omaha 8 revealed, expanded edition, by dan deppen. I havent digested it even on the surface yet, and my lack of success at plo8 as so is deserved, just understanding something, mostly playing the limit version in mixed games, and i am not so exited about plo8 at this time and only play it little to get experience and would need to study more deeply before any serious play. But that will be easier with some more experience and possible motivation, good games and enough of them and no rake problems. I learned some general stuff also.
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11-30-2015 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck3be1n
Hi guys, I am one of the authors of the book and wanted to reply to some of your questions, so let's start with the first one.

The book is focused on standard 6-max situations, so mostly heads-up pots and 3-way.
Hi, would you recommend this book to a beginner in PLO?
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