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02-10-2011 , 01:14 PM
i failed math @ high school, go figure lolol
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02-10-2011 , 02:41 PM
In 2008, WCGRider made a prop bet that he could win $10,000 in one month at 25nl. He is a terrific player and was playing well above 25nl at that time. Here's the thread that covered the event.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...thread-208939/

This coda pretty much says it all.

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Originally Posted by WCGRider
(xposted from my blog)

Well it isnt easy, but I think its time to call it. Had a small downswing today and there really is no point in continuing. If i go back to normal stakes i can prob make a good chunk of this money back, and i need to grind out the points for my EPT package (which will be much easier at higher levels).

What went wrong? Well several things in my opinion.

1) I actually believe regs adapted to me(as lol as that sound at nl 25). Basically, the first couple of days i played, i actually made +1200. But even more then that, I was basically breakeven near the end of the first day. So i essentially went +1200 in ~30 hours. But then i totally ran into a wall. I started gettig killed in non sd pots and it just seemed like i wasnt stacking anyone. A few days went by, and i started playing absolutely crazy lag, which actually worked for a bit. But then again, after a couple of days people started to catch up. It seemed like i could always get a couple days in of doing wlel and then it would just stall out, which you really cant have in something like this.

2) I played during the day a bunch. Sort of ******ed on my end, but the games can be abolutely so nitty during the day that it is very difficult to even beat them for very much. Playing at night is definetely the way to go when you do something like this.

3) My sleeping was absolutely terrible during this. Actually, for the first week, it wasnt even sleeping. Id lay down for about3-4 hours and then get back up because i just plain and simple could not sleep. Every day, couldnt sleep. It relaly starts to get to you and it started to wear on me very hard.

4) I didnt realize how invalid my prior sample of 140k hands at nl 25 was. I beat it for 7-8 ptbb/100 over that sample and thought wow, i could just light this up. Didnt happen.

So Xorbie can go ahead and send out the bets. I dont want to keep anything waiting any longer then it has to. Sorry for letting you guys down but i gave it my best and hey, thats all you can do. There is no point continuing for my $18 hourly atm (lol). At least put my money to good use.

=p.

~Doug
Today, 25nl is far tougher than it was in 2008.
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02-10-2011 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mightyTooGood
h0@x, p.s. roulete for fishez only
Tell that to James Grosjean. Next you'll claim that no one can make money at video poker.
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02-10-2011 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kk<<trupqq
citizenwind and nutedawg have both independently claimed they could beat 50NL (non-HU, that is, 6 or 9 handed) for 10ptbb (that's 20bb/100) over large samples. cw said he would only do it if somebody made a prop bet with him to make the time doing it worth his while, and it drives me nuts that nobody has taken him up on this bet. nute MIGHT be able to.. MAYBE. if he two tabled and only played when the games were the best. but there is zero chance cw can do this. Man I wish somebody would take them up on this.

sources:

http://www.cardrunners.com/cr_forums...593#post558593

http://www.cardrunners.com/cr_forums...l=1#post550491
this was over a year ago. im guessing this would not be possible now.
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02-15-2011 , 01:55 PM
I would say it is fairly likely that quite a few people could make around $100/hour at 50NL, but obviously they will move up after a few days of doing that.
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02-16-2011 , 05:27 AM
It' either highly improbable or impossible judging by the winnings of supernova elite players. The typical supernova elite player earns $100K in rakeback and 0 in winnings by grinding 30 tables 40 hours a week which is $50/hour. I doubt that anyone already willing to commit to that much grinding would be abe to earn twice as much simply by improving their game or switching sites. They are already doing all they can to maximize their winnings and concluded $50/hour is the max. Don't forget if you fail to make supernova elite the same grinder will only make $25/hour!
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02-16-2011 , 11:16 PM
50nl hu grinders can make $100+ an hr... if a skilled multi tabling hu player grinded 50nl 4-8 tables at a time im sure he can achieve $100+ an hr... in full ring or 6max its less practical
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02-17-2011 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
50nl hu grinders can make $100+ an hr... if a skilled multi tabling hu player grinded 50nl 4-8 tables at a time im sure he can achieve $100+ an hr... in full ring or 6max its less practical
not in true hourly, the 50nl hu players with high hourly in HEM are bumhunters who play 2mins, sitout and wait for an other huge whale.. in 1 day of 6 hours their HEM might show 40mins played.


Of course if a real hu pro who is good against good regs drops down to 50nl and plays on multisite to be sure to get enough action from the terrible regs bread at 50nl or fish, he would make 100$ an hour quite easily.
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02-17-2011 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rackem
i thought this was implausible too but then i read this book called 'the secret' and everything became so clear to me.
LOL!
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02-17-2011 , 01:58 PM
I love how people are saying this would be really simple to do, and yet we have zero recorded instances of it happening even once. I have gone 68-47 for $750 in profit this week. 59% winrate (heads up sng) And I'm only getting $54.54/hr played. For $100/hr to be attainable after 115 HUSNG's you'd have to win 75 out of 115 which is 65% wins. That is nearly impossible unless you're only playing really bad donks, and you'll be waiting around for many hours more.
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02-17-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexLink
So $100/hr isn't worth his while?

BTW, PTR has Alvin "Citizenwind" Lau at 4.1BB/100 over 60K hands at NL50 through August.
This.


The 8bb win rate or whatever he posted was def a heater and is not sustainable.

source - 500k+ hands of nl50 rush in my database from the last year.
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02-18-2011 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by max86
not in true hourly, the 50nl hu players with high hourly in HEM are bumhunters who play 2mins, sitout and wait for an other huge whale.. in 1 day of 6 hours their HEM might show 40mins played.


Of course if a real hu pro who is good against good regs drops down to 50nl and plays on multisite to be sure to get enough action from the terrible regs bread at 50nl or fish, he would make 100$ an hour quite easily.
You are underestimating how easy it is to get action at NL50 HU. You can pretty much be 2-6 tabling vs. fish nonstop playing only on 2 networks. So if you are US player you can just play on PS+FTP and still get decent amount of action.

Still $100/h would require maintaining a really good winrate while regularly playing 3-4 different opponents. It's really far from easy and most of the people capable of doing it would probably maximize their hourly doing something else (eg. bumhunting small/midstakes)...

But anyway, if somebody tries to achieve $100/h winrate at NL50, multitabling HU is probably the most reasonable way to do it.
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02-18-2011 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chinz
You are underestimating how easy it is to get action at NL50 HU. You can pretty much be 2-6 tabling vs. fish nonstop playing only on 2 networks. So if you are US player you can just play on PS+FTP and still get decent amount of action.

Still $100/h would require maintaining a really good winrate while regularly playing 3-4 different opponents. It's really far from easy and most of the people capable of doing it would probably maximize their hourly doing something else (eg. bumhunting small/midstakes)...

But anyway, if somebody tries to achieve $100/h winrate at NL50, multitabling HU is probably the most reasonable way to do it.

My lifetime winrate at 6max at 200nl is over 4ptbb over 3 years

I play 7-12 tables and most of the time i have 2-3 hu tables starting vs weak regs or fish

Everytime i have tried to play 6-8 tables of nl50 hu(fun-bored-challenge), i have gotten crushed by having too many weird different players, with too many different stack sizes and having a bunch of weird weak regs sit with me and play super high variance non thinking aggro hu.

It would be a very hard feat..

i feel that the only way this is doable in USD $ would be to play 16-20 tables on a site with 60%+ rb and rakeraces.. even then it would be quite close.. probably would end up getting 90$ an hour. (have to keep 3ptbb+ over 500k hands playing too many tables)
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02-18-2011 , 09:55 PM
that is so sick to achieve that much of a winrate mbsmfn lol i am probably doing the wrong thing then.
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06-03-2011 , 09:36 AM
Article you are talking about is an absolute absurd.
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12-16-2011 , 02:13 AM
Carl Sampson has trying to establish his credentials as an expert for years but he does not appear to be very good at poker. This results in some hilarious articles. They can be found on The Hendon Mob website, who publish them in all seriousness. "Self-hypnosis - the silent enemy" is a particular favourite of mine.
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12-16-2011 , 08:48 AM
sick bump
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04-09-2012 , 01:45 PM
LOL TROLL much :P. if the man is making a profit, i dont think he cares if your hating on him.
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04-09-2012 , 09:20 PM
huh?
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04-09-2012 , 11:03 PM
1000 tabling ftw
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10-10-2012 , 01:37 AM
Thought I would add this quote from Carls blog Oct 3 2012:
"I have been playing $0.01-$0.02 lately "
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10-10-2012 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dwayman
Thought I would add this quote from Carls blog Oct 3 2012:
"I have been playing $0.01-$0.02 lately "
lol

Wonder how the diet went.
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10-18-2012 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nota_bene
lol

Wonder how the diet went.
I'm sure it probably goes something like..

'been eating a lot of McDonald's recently'
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09-16-2013 , 12:56 AM
in 2013 100/hr playing poker is very, very hard to come by. I don't even want to guess what percentage of players that played 1 hand in 2012, made 100/hr.
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09-16-2013 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
in 2013 100/hr playing poker is NOTHING MORE THAN VARIANCE
I agree... unless you are playing > 25/50
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