Again, it is not "a personal decision", it's a question of being fair to others or not being fair to others. And no, when I have a murder that has going with his "personal decisions" and then faced jail, I don't want to have him nowhere near by me. I don't care if they guy complains that he was born in this country and he could not choose the law, and that the law does not contemplate certains areas of the country to be "kill free" so a few hundreds murders could have some fun.

And you still consider it a question of "some thousand botters having fun", when we are speaking about money that botters have won from players in UNfair terms, and players would like to get back.

If you really consider it a question of "some thousand botters having fun", you don't need to play for real money, you could play with play money only, you could play in the UofA competition, against Sonia, or other places that are for real researchers, not for real money botters that disguise them selves as researchers when they think it's good for a particular sentence.

So for Poker Players is about money won from them in unfair terms. Money has to be quantified.

And as I said:
If you don't want to reply to that questions with a Yes at the last one, just shut up then, no need to reply with more non-sense, we're talking about money that was stolen from human players and botters giving up on what they considered wrongly as "personal decisions", nothing else.

So, now you have to stfu, this for you and for players is about money, not about fun.

Again, it is a personal decision which has punishable consequences. Being it about bots, HUDs, or modding the software.

I will not answer your questions, but even if I wanted to, I cannot, because you did not answer mine, how do you quantify "money won in unfair manner" depending on the case (e.g. using software or modding or talking bad things in chat)? Or you simply take these as equals, under the ToS, and everyone violating any of these should return all the money that he won ever?

Adrian you are funny, you first said in this thread that you will not talk to me further because "I do not deserve your elaborated arguments". Then you broke your word, and came back, and now you are desperately trying to make me shut up? Lol.

lol at you people. Indiana is a bot. These discussions start and end the same way from poster to poster and thread to thread. People get disgusted with Indy's BS non-answers and go away and someone new starts it all again. You could make a flow chart to predict the direction of each confrontation with Indy.

Indy is scum. He cheats fellow players. End of story. Pray he gets caught and laugh when his funds get confiscated while he screams at Pokerstars "No wait, everyone cheats!"

lol

If you want to call almost all players scums, I'm fine with that. I didn't find many people disgusted with my posts, on the contrary, I'm getting a lot (I mean hundreds) of private "Thanks" posts and messages from serious people (students, researchers, proffesionals).

I call bull**** .We can put up a poll asking if the majoity of forumites think your a cheater or a benefit to them. How much would you like to wager?

How is that relevant? While I said bad things about UB in forums (hence cheated against their Tos), it is an obvious matter of fact (does not need a poll) that many if not most regular people around did the same. So what's the point in verifying something that is already clear?

CRUDE (and others) I think you should more focus on the topics being discussed, and the ideas being promoted, instead of always putting myself personally in the sparkling spotlight.

You made it relevant...
Dude, you are the one who said he got HUNDREDS of PM's saying how wonderful you were and thanking you. Don't say **** that you can't back up

Your TOS arguments don't hold water. Criticizing a site and botting are worlds apart. It's like comparing jaywalking and murder

In fact, things like criticizing a site, or modding it might be illegal under some laws, where botting (using software assistance) wouldn't be. So rather the opposite of what you're saying, botting will be the jaywalking. Or that's what you meant anyway?

just wondering i had a question for indiana

It became too much of a name calling thread.

You can PM Indiana with a question.