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02-27-2017 , 03:29 AM
it depends. give us some more information
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02-27-2017 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAfterman
Sanity check on pot odds:

I have created the following sticky note on my desktop when I realised that pot odds are about ratios not actual amounts of money. I'm keeping this in view while I play to help internalise these numbers:

1/2 pot = 25%
3/4 pot = ~30%
pot = 33%
2x pot = 40%

So on the left you have the size of villains bet in relation to the pot, and on the right you have the percentage equity required to call (ignoring all other factors).

Are my numbers correct?
Interesting. At a glance your numbers look OK, but I've recently been thinking about it in the other direction. That is, if villain has a flush draw (or whatever else I think that he might be drawing to) what percentage of the pot do I need to bet to deny him the correct pot odds to draw?

One common time that this comes into play is when there is a two-suited flop and villain bets (especially if he's not a loose player.) Of course, if the flop is low cards villain might have overcards as well as a flush draw (up to 15 outs) and it gets a little more interesting.
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02-28-2017 , 01:37 PM
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I raised UTG with pocket 10's. I get reraised by the button 6 handed. It would just be heads up if I call.

Is it standard to call most of the time here? I am assuming it is unless the raise is huge, such as an all in.

I am torn as a fold seems reasonable as well given over cards are likely to hit the board and I would be out of position the rest of the hand.

Thanks for providing a general rule of thumb for this situation for micro stakes.
Usually call, if short enough all in.
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02-28-2017 , 08:25 PM
Can reverse implied be mathematically calculated or no?
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03-07-2017 , 09:23 AM
For preflop 3! with stuff like suited Ax, suited connectors + gappers and pp's you guys take into account a mixed frequency strat + obv villain dependent right?

Also taking into account all the other factors such as position, v's range compositions, etc... but say barring no strong reads/information always 3! weak suited Ax vs. a LP open when you are in LP open is wrong and you should flat some combos?

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I'm guessing the EV's are going to be close between 3! and having some in flatting range of the above mentioned hands (suited Ax, suited connectors + gappers, and pp's) unless villain is super exploitable/has poorly constructed ranges preflop etc.
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03-07-2017 , 04:57 PM
Probably not the best place, but f it.

I'm looking for a thread that was like a sticky with an entire index of useful 6max threads? Can anyone find it for me?
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03-08-2017 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoxgsr96
For preflop 3! with stuff like suited Ax, suited connectors + gappers and pp's you guys take into account a mixed frequency strat + obv villain dependent right?

Also taking into account all the other factors such as position, v's range compositions, etc... but say barring no strong reads/information always 3! weak suited Ax vs. a LP open when you are in LP open is wrong and you should flat some combos?

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I'm guessing the EV's are going to be close between 3! and having some in flatting range of the above mentioned hands (suited Ax, suited connectors + gappers, and pp's) unless villain is super exploitable/has poorly constructed ranges preflop etc.
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Bump plz someone?

Or does anyone know/can refer me to of a range construction/mixed frequency strat thread that's relevant in poker theory i can post?
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03-08-2017 , 11:46 PM
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Bump plz someone?

Or does anyone know/can refer me to of a range construction/mixed frequency strat thread that's relevant in poker theory i can post?
The answer to that question for me is yes.
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03-09-2017 , 01:23 PM
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The answer to that question for me is yes.
So yes you do use a mixed frequency strat for constructing ranges, like calling suited Ax and 3! suited Ax some of the time?

And yes the EV's will be close/similar right?
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03-09-2017 , 01:31 PM
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So yes you do use a mixed frequency strat for constructing ranges, like calling suited Ax and 3! suited Ax some of the time?

And yes the EV's will be close/similar right?
In theory when I run sims yes the ev's are similar (the same). In practice, I do it not only because it is what I learned by running sims, but because I want to build a database for study so I can learn by application what is best.

For example:
If something is cold call 30% and 3-bet 70% I pick the route that best exploits villain, I don't use a randomizer if that makes sense. I may even fold. Usually the sim I ran takes into account population mistakes, I then use whatever info I have on villain to refine my choice further.

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03-12-2017 , 06:48 AM
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In theory when I run sims yes the ev's are similar (the same). In practice, I do it not only because it is what I learned by running sims, but because I want to build a database for study so I can learn by application what is best.

For example:
If something is cold call 30% and 3-bet 70% I pick the route that best exploits villain, I don't use a randomizer if that makes sense. I may even fold. Usually the sim I ran takes into account population mistakes, I then use whatever info I have on villain to refine my choice further.
Do you run some type of bot or something?
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03-12-2017 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by outfit
In theory when I run sims yes the ev's are similar (the same). In practice, I do it not only because it is what I learned by running sims, but because I want to build a database for study so I can learn by application what is best.

For example:
If something is cold call 30% and 3-bet 70% I pick the route that best exploits villain, I don't use a randomizer if that makes sense. I may even fold. Usually the sim I ran takes into account population mistakes, I then use whatever info I have on villain to refine my choice further.
which stakes do you play?
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03-12-2017 , 01:30 PM
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which stakes do you play?
The smallest stakes I can find
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03-12-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Do you run some type of bot or something?
I use the same software as you. I assume your doing something similar with it, with that 300k+ database of yours.

Pt4/HM2 crev/pio
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03-12-2017 , 11:07 PM
What's the longest thread ever on 2p2?
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03-13-2017 , 01:48 PM
Would take a stab at the transfers thread or SE's FACK
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03-13-2017 , 02:17 PM
Sporting Events FAQ has almost 11 million views.....
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03-22-2017 , 03:55 PM
Not 100% sure what's the most valuable way of redeeming VPP's @ PS? Should I just grind for a month, then just exchange them for cash? Don't need tournament tickets etc.
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03-22-2017 , 03:59 PM
I'm a new player, playing NL2 on PokerStars. The first thing in my learning process was to look at my Pre-Flop Range. I'm still working on that but have the basics down (playing more hands in LP than EP). I'm using a few Pre-Flop Range charts.
The second thing I just now started working on is Pot Odds and Equity. I have a question about a hand I jsut played.

Flop is JhQd2c.
Hero (CO) has AsTc against Villain in MP.
Villain bets 0.09$ into 0.14$ making the Pot 0.23$ and giving me Pot Odds of 2.6:1 or 28%.
I have a gutshot, which is in Card Odds 10.8:1 or 8.5%.
My thinking:
Pot Odds < Card Odds --> I should fold, or, in percentage:
Equity < Pot Odds. Same result of course, I should fold to be profitable long-term.
Now I also think that if I hit an Ace, I will win the hand too. That would be 3 more outs to calculate with, which results in the following Odds:
Card Odds 14.9% < 28% Pot Odds --> should still fold
Card Odds 5.7:1 > 2.6:1 Pot Odds --> should still fold

Is it correct to calculate whether to call or to fold not just with the gutshot draw but also with the outs of the Aces or is that not good? In a different situation the calculation might tell me to fold by just taking the outs of the gutshot draw, but might tell me to call factoring in a pair draw.
Or is that thinking too speculative and -EV?
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03-22-2017 , 06:17 PM
Yet another question

NL2 Full Ring on PokerStars:
UTG raises to 0.06$, hero (MP) has AK 3bets to 0.20$, HJ goes all-in for 1.73$, action folds to hero, hero calls.

Villain has 77 and 52% to win pre-flop
Hero has a chance of 48% to win pre-flop

If I wanted to make perfect decisions every time and if I knew I had 2% less than going even, I would have to fold to his all-in. Now does the fact that I already put 20 cents into the pot make a difference in my decision? Is it actually correct being behind 2% to call?
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03-24-2017 , 01:15 AM
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I'm a new player, playing NL2 on PokerStars. The first thing in my learning process was to look at my Pre-Flop Range. I'm still working on that but have the basics down (playing more hands in LP than EP). I'm using a few Pre-Flop Range charts.
The second thing I just now started working on is Pot Odds and Equity. I have a question about a hand I jsut played.

Flop is JhQd2c.
Hero (CO) has AsTc against Villain in MP.
Villain bets 0.09$ into 0.14$ making the Pot 0.23$ and giving me Pot Odds of 2.6:1 or 28%.
I have a gutshot, which is in Card Odds 10.8:1 or 8.5%.
My thinking:
Pot Odds < Card Odds --> I should fold, or, in percentage:
Equity < Pot Odds. Same result of course, I should fold to be profitable long-term.
Now I also think that if I hit an Ace, I will win the hand too. That would be 3 more outs to calculate with, which results in the following Odds:
Card Odds 14.9% < 28% Pot Odds --> should still fold
Card Odds 5.7:1 > 2.6:1 Pot Odds --> should still fold

Is it correct to calculate whether to call or to fold not just with the gutshot draw but also with the outs of the Aces or is that not good? In a different situation the calculation might tell me to fold by just taking the outs of the gutshot draw, but might tell me to call factoring in a pair draw.
Or is that thinking too speculative and -EV?
Totally dependent on the bettor's range. Vs some you have strong pair outs. Vs others you're drawing thin. Also, if there's money to be won on later streets I think it's an easy call here. Probably fold preflop though.

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Yet another question

NL2 Full Ring on PokerStars:
UTG raises to 0.06$, hero (MP) has AK 3bets to 0.20$, HJ goes all-in for 1.73$, action folds to hero, hero calls.

Villain has 77 and 52% to win pre-flop
Hero has a chance of 48% to win pre-flop

If I wanted to make perfect decisions every time and if I knew I had 2% less than going even, I would have to fold to his all-in. Now does the fact that I already put 20 cents into the pot make a difference in my decision? Is it actually correct being behind 2% to call?
Yeah it's a good call imo. It's about risk vs reward. You divide what you can lose by what you can win:

(1.53)/(1.53+1.53+.4+.03) = 1.53/3.49 = 43.83954% investment. So if your hand has more equity than that, it's a profitable call.
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03-27-2017 , 06:14 PM
How do you become a poo-bah? Does this mean that person is good at poker, or does it mean they have posted 10k+ threads?

I tried searching this thread for that keyword, and I didn't see anything. I also tried googling. Thanks.
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03-27-2017 , 07:10 PM
it means one has poasted a lot of poasts. round about 350

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03-28-2017 , 01:29 AM
Is there free software's for calculating ranges & equity's? (Such as flopzilla, poker ranger, holdemresources etc.)

Should work on OS X as well..

Wouldn't also mind spending few dollars towards it, but seems that at the moment those things are a bit pricey.
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03-28-2017 , 02:07 AM
Equilab?
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