Just got an email that speed Holdem is live on Titan...

Wasn't being sensitive, was just basically saying folding the 22 would be fairly nitty and not betting the flush would be straight out bad play.

Feel your pain mate. Lost 4 BIs in last session of the day yesterday, but 5BIs in straight out coolers.
Same today, got Aces 6 times in 1500 hands and folded round 4 times, got stacked by 99 another time, and folded the last time on a TJQ flop when UTG had called my pf 3bet and fired big on flop and turn.

Also made another thread about getting it in with a set ott on a drawy board, be interesting to see what responses that gets. Personally i like to get all my money in ahead, but have had conflicting thoughts from others so will see what the perceived wisdom is I guess.

Trying to be less aggressive and tighten up a bit atm, so will see how that goes. Managed to fight back to evens earlier so maybe that's the way to go, weaktight all the way

Back to 50NL FR soon!

From what i've seen i think there's a massive difference between the two levels in terms of skill/aggression so will need to be on my game

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I think I botched this already by not raising the turn. I didn't want to as it seemed very likely they are both drawing dead and they wouldn't be paying off my strange call/raise with their weak hands. In retrospect, I think I should probably have done that anyway. But, I didn't. So how much do I bet otr?

MP+1 is 19/17 over 50 hands
SB is 14/11 over 100 hands

PokerStars - $0.25 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $34.88
SB: $32.84
Hero (BB): $26.12
UTG: $33.36
UTG+1: $25.00
MP: $26.91
MP+1: $23.95
LP: $33.85
CO: $10.55

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 9 J

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50, 3 players) 8 T 2
SB checks, Hero checks, MP+1 checks

Turn: ($1.50, 3 players) Q
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, MP+1 raises to $3.00, SB calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

River: ($10.50, 3 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $?.??

Such a sick day, I just went back on with the intention of only doing 500 hands but I quickly find myself another couple of BI down so I'm -6BI for the day and on some severe tilt so I continue to play. I don't want to know how bad it could have been if I hadn't stopped the tilt, I just stopped myself for a second and said to myself "don't do this". Well it definitely worked as I worked my way all the way back up to even for the day so was a decent day I guess, happy with how it went. At one point in the space of 150 hands I was in 10 pots bigger than 100bb so was certainly hectic at times!

Btw it's ridiculous how much better the games are at 8PM onwards (BST) compared to before 5PM. My session earlier was so nitty but this was the complete opposite, think I'll have to change what time I do my sessions from now on.

This hand surprised me when I won on the river, looking at it now is just lols. Reason I got so tilted at the start was because no one would fold to me, well I'm now very thankful of that.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.32
Hero (BB): $13.37
UTG: $13.25
MP: $8.26
CO: $17.76

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, CO calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.05, 2 players) K J 4
Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.45, 2 players) T
Hero bets $3.00, CO calls $3.00

River: ($10.45, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $8.17 and is all-in, CO calls $8.17

Hero shows A Q (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 47%, Flop 40%, Turn 100%)
CO mucks 9 9 (Straight, King High) (Pre 53%, Flop 60%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $25.58

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $54.67
Hero (SB): $77.53
BB: $161.08
UTG: $50.00
MP: $42.12
CO: $25.25

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) T 7 T
Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.50, 2 players) K
Hero bets $4.28, BB calls $4.28

River: ($15.06, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets $9.00, Hero calls $9.00

BB shows 8 9 (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 45%, Flop 53%, Turn 35%)
Hero shows Q 5 (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 55%, Flop 47%, Turn 65%)
Hero wins $31.57

snaaappppped it.

@Quadas - i think i'm donking the flop quite a lot here, hand plays out easier that way imo. As played 1/2 to 2/3 pot, trying to get called by 1 pair hands

@Q6 - do you fold if he goes smaller? would look more plausibly like a thin value bet if he did. sick anyway

ok thanks for the input on the last post i put up. I guess it's a vary per-case decision, which would basically require reads or a hud. I've been having a hard time moving up to 5nl zoom without a hud (PT3 hud doesn't work on mac zoom). I feel like im giving up some spots or having to guess lots. has anybody done this (5nl zoom no hud) profitably over a large sample?

Occassionally my HUD stops for a while and I just have to come straight off, it's so hard trying to play hands blind. How long are you without a HUD for? It will be profitable, you will just have to stick to the basics as much as possible.

It's this kind of thing I just can't get my head round.

I have 30 or so hands on villain, he's 9/7/2AF

What does he think he's ahead of? I thought aggro shortstack nits were all about the equity and getting it in with a hand that has good equity against oppo's range?

Never really tried. I imagine i could grind out a small winrite but i'd just get frustrated in so many spots where it's so dependent on villain stats.

e.g. we raise JJ on the btn and we get 3bet by the BB. For all we know BB could be 3betting 1% (some people do this) in which case we can easily fold/set mine depending on stacks. Or he could be 3betting 25% and then we can fist pump get in it.

a)he probably sucks

b) maybe you were running super aggro over his small sample or maybe you folded to a couple of 4 bets and he's overvalued the small sample

c) maybe a bit of both

50 bb isn't shortstacking and nobody good at shortstacking is playing 10NL.

Anyway, he is a nit who was unaware of his own table image and decided to spazz. That happens all the time, just smile and be happy.

I think maybe mostly a). The post wasn't a moan, just genuinely surprised. Saw one of these type limp/call QJo from utg earlier too. Just weird play. Do they get bored being nits or something?!

Yeah probably because much smaller my instinct would just be that he would never be bluffing that size.
I was actually fairly confident calling, he folds to 75% of 3bets so rules out Kx or floaty Ax, raises flop some % with Tx plus quads are hard to makes, and he isn't good enough to vbet 7x otr i don't think.

Tbf I probably shoulda just raised just in case he bets 7x, but it looks cooler to call.

solution is sell your mac and buy a pc.
srious tho I had a mac and they are such a lump of **** for poker.

I think nits just go mad from boredom and flip out sometimes. Or maybe they just tilt because they waited 700 hands to play AA/KK 3 times UTG and villains hit a set twice stacking them and once got it in pre with 87s and sucked out.

khangura175: posts small blind $0.10
dixonbra29: posts big blind $0.25

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to khangura175 [Ah Ad]
5past10626: folds
Gabytumba!!: folds
M4y4-23: folds
philokokus: raises $0.50 to $0.75
khangura175: calls $0.65
dixonbra29: calls $0.50

*** FLOP *** [As Ac Jc]
khangura175: checks
dixonbra29: checks
philokokus: bets $0.75
khangura175: calls $0.75
dixonbra29: folds

*** TURN *** [As Ac Jc] [Ks]
khangura175: checks
philokokus: bets $0.75
khangura175: raises $1 to $1.75
philokokus: raises $5.35 to $7.10 and is all-in
khangura175 said, "wat u got"
khangura175 said, "SLOWROLLED"
khangura175: calls $5.35

*** RIVER *** [As Ac Jc Ks] [Js]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
khangura175: shows [Ah Ad] (four of a kind, Aces)
philokokus: shows [Qd Tc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
khangura175 collected $17.14 from pot

k im going to sleep, theres no money in this game

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($9.22)
SB ($41.62)
BB ($7.40)
UTG ($26.94)
MP ($34.43)
Hero (CO) ($151.72)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, 9
2 folds, Hero bets $0.62, 2 folds, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34) 3, 6, 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.34) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75

River: ($2.84) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $2.84 | Rake: $0.13

Results:
BB had 9, 7 (one pair, sixes).
Hero had J, 9 (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $2.71

What is the advantage too play zoom poker ???

more fun.

More volume for those with less time

And the award for most weirdly played hand by villain goes to:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $13.87
SB: $37.88
BB: $25.35
UTG: $23.22
UTG+1: $43.14
MP: $30.60
MP+1: $24.57
LP: $14.00
Hero (CO): $57.37

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has T A

fold, fold, fold, fold, LP raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 6 Q 5
LP checks, Hero bets $1.06, LP calls $1.06

Turn: ($3.87, 2 players) 9
LP checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.87, 2 players) A
LP bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

LP shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 70%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows T A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 30%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $4.65

On the flop he tanked for quite a while before calling. Overall his line was so weird that I didn't think raising river was an option. They often show up with a flush here. But shortstacker playing KK like this? Seriously...

Lol

I hope you have a good reason to do that...

After the misery of 5k breakeven hands at 2nl due to running 8bi's under ev, I had my trust in zoom restored this morning thanks to a few superbly played hands by others.

What's a good bb/100 to be beating 2nl 6max zoom at over 25k hands?