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06-09-2012 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
Rules me out :P

What stats are you looking for?

Fwiw, stats dont exactly tell you the whole story. For example, in leakbuster, say you play a very good Laggy game with 30/26 stats, LB will have you down as a whale. - Well, your not... you just play differntly.

Alternatvivly, you may have the same flop cb stat as a winning player, yet they CB in better/differnt spots to you.

Therefore, you shouldnt really take in to account stats too much... There good for plugging leaks, but dont expect to be a winning player by achieving the same stats as a winning reg!

(Giving LB a bit of credit, however... It does a lot more and offers some free coaching advice which is handy)

Im just looking for basic VPIP/PFR to see what hand ranges most winning regs play. Obviously it doesnt teach me anything how to play and doesnt tell the whole story, but it gives me a good idea what I should be aiming for when picking hands what to play vs. unknowns.
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06-09-2012 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rukiddingsme
Winning players care to tell your stats?
Maximum distance from the sun: 94 million 537 thousand miles
Minimum distance from the sun: 91 million 377 thousand miles
Mean distance from the sun: 92 million 957 thousand and 200 miles
Mean Orbital velocity: 66000 miles per hour
0rbital eccentricity: 0.017
Obliquity of the ecliptic: 23 degrees 27 minutes 8.26 seconds
Length of the tropical year: equinox equinox 365.24 days
Lenght of the sidereal year: fixed star fixed star 365.26 days
Length of the mean solar day: 24 hours and 3 minutes and 56.5555 seconds at mean solar time
Length of the mean sidereal day: 23 hours and 56 minutes and 4.091 seconds at mean sederial time
Mass: 6600 milion milion milion tons
Equatorial diameter: 7927 miles
Polar diameter: 7900 miles
Oblateness: one 298th
Density: 5.41
Mean surface gravitational acceleration of the rotating earth: 32.174 feet per second per second
Escape velocity: 7 miles per second

Albedo: 0.39
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06-09-2012 , 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rukiddingsme
Im just looking for basic VPIP/PFR to see what hand ranges most winning regs play. Obviously it doesnt teach me anything how to play and doesnt tell the whole story, but it gives me a good idea what I should be aiming for when picking hands what to play vs. unknowns.
FR or 6 max??
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06-09-2012 , 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
FR or 6 max??
both
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06-09-2012 , 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rukiddingsme
Winning players care to tell your stats?


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This is FR, as others have said though you could replicate these exactly and lose, the important thing is which hands, when and why.
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06-09-2012 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Suzukishosan


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This is FR, as others have said though you could replicate these exactly and lose, the important thing is which hands, when and why.
2B pre flop & fold...?

Is that fold vs 3B???
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06-09-2012 , 11:37 AM
Just had one of those sessions where nothing goes right. :/ Started well, trying to recall the last time I had a session where I wasn't a BI up within 200 hands - maybe I should consider hit n running :P, then I was down 4BI within 500 hands. Rest of the session was just depressing more than anything, after 1.5K hands I was still down 4BI so I just called it a day. I was a bit of a calling station at the beginning of the session which definitely cost me but was a run bad session nontheless. Nothing I did worked, every single cbet would get called and I'd have to shut down in almost every single pot, only time I ever hit a set was the very last hand of the session and I only got like 18BB from it.

Was happy with my 3betting in the session, I had a final 3bet of 10% for the session which is pretty high and well above average for me but I just picked on the bad regs who had fold to 3bets of like 80%+ over 100+ samples. Pretty annoying that everytime I improve one aspect of my game I let another aspect slip which was being a huge station today.
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06-09-2012 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
2B pre flop & fold...?

Is that fold vs 3B???
yeh that's how pt4 rolls
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06-09-2012 , 04:02 PM
Ok I've found my tilt Achilles heal!

Shortstacker set mines me with 33 in a 3 bet pot OOP, and then has the cheek to ****ing slowroll me when he hits his set!

I went on to spew away 4 bi's in the next 10 minutes!
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06-09-2012 , 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzukishosan
Ok I've found my tilt Achilles heal!

Shortstacker set mines me with 33 in a 3 bet pot OOP, and then has the cheek to ****ing slowroll me when he hits his set!

I went on to spew away 4 bi's in the next 10 minutes!
Ha, thats tilty as f*ck... Just slowroll the mother f*cker next time you have AA vs him I would, though, Im a massive c*nt when it comes to online poker

Oh, and btw... Your fV3B stat seems significantly lower than mine (I think im running at like 85% atm xD - Nit that I am. Most players dont realize or care) - what kind of hands are you calling with IP?
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06-09-2012 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzukishosan
Ok I've found my tilt Achilles heal!

Shortstacker set mines me with 33 in a 3 bet pot OOP, and then has the cheek to ****ing slowroll me when he hits his set!

I went on to spew away 4 bi's in the next 10 minutes!
Ye they call 3or4bets oop with 22 for half of their stack then tank for full time bank on A28 rainbow

Happens everyday - but it really helped me to avoid and cure tilt.. now I just laugh everytime
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06-09-2012 , 06:57 PM
Gotta make use of the fact that these fishies hav no fold button

OVERBET FOR LIFE


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $34.96
Hero (SB): $37.24
BB: $27.29
UTG: $17.59
MP: $18.47
CO: $12.82

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A A

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, MP calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) 9 A 4
Hero bets $2.25, MP calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.75, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $32.49 and is all-in, MP calls $13.72 and is all-in

River: ($37.19, 2 players) 8

Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 80%, Flop 74%, Turn 77%)
MP shows 3 6 (High Card, Ace) (Pre 20%, Flop 26%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $35.52


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $43.84
BB: $33.65
UTG: $25.00
MP: $18.68
CO: $20.50

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.35, 2 players) 9 4 Q
CO checks, Hero bets $3.25, CO calls $3.25

Turn: ($10.85, 2 players) 6
CO checks, Hero bets $19.75 and is all-in, CO calls $15.25 and is all-in

River: ($41.35, 2 players) J

CO shows 9 T (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 18%, Flop 21%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 79%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins $39.49

Both spots, they would fold if they saw river.
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06-09-2012 , 07:15 PM
Horrible start to the month.

Cashing out some winnings (while i've got any left) and moving down to 25NL

sad sad day



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06-09-2012 , 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by khangura175
Gotta make use of the fact that these fishies hav no fold button

OVERBET FOR LIFE


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $34.96
Hero (SB): $37.24
BB: $27.29
UTG: $17.59
MP: $18.47
CO: $12.82

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A A

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, MP calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) 9 A 4
Hero bets $2.25, MP calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.75, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $32.49 and is all-in, MP calls $13.72 and is all-in

River: ($37.19, 2 players) 8

Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 80%, Flop 74%, Turn 77%)
MP shows 3 6 (High Card, Ace) (Pre 20%, Flop 26%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $35.52


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $43.84
BB: $33.65
UTG: $25.00
MP: $18.68
CO: $20.50

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.35, 2 players) 9 4 Q
CO checks, Hero bets $3.25, CO calls $3.25

Turn: ($10.85, 2 players) 6
CO checks, Hero bets $19.75 and is all-in, CO calls $15.25 and is all-in

River: ($41.35, 2 players) J

CO shows 9 T (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 18%, Flop 21%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 79%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins $39.49

Both spots, they would fold if they saw river.
Hand 1:

I would CB the flop larger to set up the turn shove without the need to overbet.

Hand 2:

Either bet the flop larger to set up the turn shove, or just bet the flop 1/2 pot, turn 1/2 pot and shove river - May miss some value as you rightly suggested, but I still think its better for a number of reasons

Personally I dislike overbetting by more than a couple of cents - Gives some villians the ability to find folds (Though, at 25NL I have seen some crazy fishy sh*t)
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06-09-2012 , 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzukishosan
Horrible start to the month.

Cashing out some winnings (while i've got any left) and moving down to 25NL

sad sad day



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I did the same thing too after a couple of days this month.

Moving down to 25NL will be +ev for sure - Get some confidence back and I'm sure you will be back to 50NL sometime next month - You are, afterall, crushing zoom at like 7bb/100)
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06-09-2012 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
I did the same thing too after a couple of days this month.

Moving down to 25NL will be +ev for sure - Get some confidence back and I'm sure you will be back to 50NL sometime next month - You are, afterall, crushing zoom at like 7bb/100)
cheers, that's the plan. Might post a few hands from my downswing, in the most part i think i've been unlucky but there must have been some poor play in there too.
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06-09-2012 , 08:20 PM
Dw Suzukishosan, im having a pretty **** month as well
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06-09-2012 , 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
(Though, at 25NL I have seen some crazy fishy sh*t)
Have u now..


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $41.90
SB: $37.40
BB: $16.72
Hero (UTG): $29.83
MP: $42.90
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J J

Hero raises to $0.85, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.55, 3 players) 2 2 J
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.55, 3 players) A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50, fold

River: ($5.55, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets $9.99, SB raises to $35.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.49 and is all-in

SB shows A J (Full House, Twos full of Aces) (Pre 31%, Flop 0%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows J J (Full House, Jacks full of Twos) (Pre 69%, Flop 100%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $58.51
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06-09-2012 , 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
Personally I dislike overbetting by more than a couple of cents - Gives some villians the ability to find folds
Not the fishlets, only the tags


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $9.31
SB: $25.00
BB: $23.47
UTG: $55.93
Hero (MP): $25.00
CO: $16.60

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, BTN calls $1.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($2.35, 2 players) 7 8 A
Hero bets $1.12, BTN calls $1.12

Turn: ($4.59, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($4.59, 2 players) K
Hero bets $8.00, BTN calls $7.19 and is all-in

Hero shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 68%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 3 A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 32%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $18.12
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06-10-2012 , 07:48 AM
Unbelievable. No money in zoom

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13168961

    CO: $32.36 (129.4 bb)
    SB: $51.19 (204.8 bb)
    Hero (BB): $51.78 (207.1 bb)
    UTG: $16.61 (66.4 bb)
    MP1: $28.60 (114.4 bb)
    MP2: $39.39 (157.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
    UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, UTG calls $0.50

    Flop: ($1.60) 7 K 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.14, UTG calls $1.14

    Turn: ($3.88) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.75, UTG calls $2.75

    River: ($9.38) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $28.25, UTG calls $11.97 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: $33.32 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 7 K 4 8 9
    Hero showed K A and lost (-$16.61 net)
    UTG showed 8 9 and won $31.82 ($15.21 net)



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    06-10-2012 , 08:06 AM
    Just need advice on 3betting only currently 3bet strong hands in position AA,KK,QQ,AK my question for people good at zoom is how profitable is it to 3bet weaker hands A,Q, JJ, 10,10

    I know people 3bet light with suited connecters ect at the moment im beating the limits i play for a decent win rate I only play microstakes so i'm a bit hesitiant to alter my game to much.

    Should i be 3betting wider or betting light is it usually more profitable?

    Thanks!
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    06-10-2012 , 08:36 AM
    Against opponents that fold to a lot of 3 bets i'd add in a few bluffs as well as your QQ+ AK, keep AQ, TT, JJ type hands in your flatting range.

    Against opponents that like to call vs 3bets i'd take out the bluffs and start 3betting hands like AQ,TT,JJ

    Don't go crazy with the bluffs though, i'd recommend suited As to start with as they block some of your opponents strong hands and can also outflop some their flatting range TT-QQ etc..
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    06-10-2012 , 08:48 AM
    I've just done a (very painful) downswing analysis....

    In total this month i've lost 50bbs or more in 29 pots and here's how i broke it down:

    Spew 3
    Coolers 5
    Flips 1
    Bad luck 10
    Unsure 10

    Here's a couple of the hands i was unsure about, any feedback would be much appreciated!

    Hand 1

    Original raiser was a fish, SB was 9/6/1 with an agg factor of 6

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $62.74
    SB: $52.13
    BB: $50.00
    UTG: $70.76
    UTG+1: $79.09
    UTG+2: $29.73
    Hero (MP): $56.62
    MP+1: $55.37
    CO: $25.21

    SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 6 7

    fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $1.25, fold

    Flop: ($5.00, 3 players) T 5 6
    SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB raises to $7.00, fold, Hero calls $4.00

    Turn: ($19.00, 2 players) 9
    SB bets $9.00, Hero raises to $48.12 and is all-in, SB calls $34.63 and is all-in



    Hand 2

    Vill is 16/4 with an agg factor of 5.

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $50.00
    SB: $46.46
    BB: $72.60
    Hero (UTG): $50.75
    UTG+1: $51.94
    UTG+2: $75.88
    MP: $49.02
    MP+1: $60.66
    CO: $110.96

    SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A A

    Hero raises to $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $1.00

    Flop: ($4.75, 3 players) 9 5 8
    BB checks, Hero bets $3.00, UTG+1 raises to $10.00, fold, Hero raises to $20.00, UTG+1 raises to $50.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $29.25 and is all-in



    Hand 3

    Vill was 15/9 with an agg factor of 8.

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): $50.00
    SB: $49.50
    BB: $50.00
    UTG: $50.50
    UTG+1: $51.80
    UTG+2: $62.95
    MP: $48.05
    MP+1: $50.00
    CO: $51.50

    SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T A

    UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, MP calls $1.50, MP+1 calls $1.50, fold, Hero calls $1.50, fold, fold

    Flop: ($6.75, 4 players) K J 8
    UTG bets $5.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $5.00

    Turn: ($16.75, 2 players) 8
    UTG bets $10.00, Hero calls $10.00

    River: ($36.75, 2 players) 6
    UTG bets $33.50, Hero calls $33.50 and is all-in



    Hand 4

    Vill was 22/12 with agg of 2

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): $56.12
    SB: $55.71
    BB: $63.84
    UTG: $55.88
    UTG+1: $28.20
    UTG+2: $24.75
    MP: $31.27
    MP+1: $50.75
    CO: $50.00

    SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A Q

    UTG raises to $1.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.25, fold, fold

    Flop: ($3.25, 2 players) 7 9 A
    UTG checks, Hero bets $2.00, UTG calls $2.00

    Turn: ($7.25, 2 players) 7
    UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG raises to $8.50, Hero calls $5.00

    River: ($24.25, 2 players) 7
    UTG bets $19.50, Hero calls $19.50
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    06-10-2012 , 09:02 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kozlicek
    Unbelievable. No money in zoom

      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13168961

      CO: $32.36 (129.4 bb)
      SB: $51.19 (204.8 bb)
      Hero (BB): $51.78 (207.1 bb)
      UTG: $16.61 (66.4 bb)
      MP1: $28.60 (114.4 bb)
      MP2: $39.39 (157.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
      UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, UTG calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 7 K 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.14, UTG calls $1.14

      Turn: ($3.88) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.75, UTG calls $2.75

      River: ($9.38) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $28.25, UTG calls $11.97 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: $33.32 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: 7 K 4 8 9
      Hero showed K A and lost (-$16.61 net)
      UTG showed 8 9 and won $31.82 ($15.21 net)



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      4x pre.

      Bet the turn larger, and then shove the river... Gotta love the fish backdooring their way to your stack


      I RAN WELL....


        Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13168991

        BTN: $26.66 (106.6 bb)
        SB: $28.25 (113 bb)
        BB: $35.06 (140.2 bb)
        UTG+1: $14.87 (59.5 bb)
        UTG+2: $31.80 (127.2 bb)
        MP1: $26.50 (106 bb)
        MP2: $28.71 (114.8 bb)
        MP3: $19 (76 bb)
        Hero (CO): $49.34 (197.4 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
        UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises to $5.75, Hero calls $3.50

        Flop: ($11.85) 9 9 A (2 players)
        UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

        Turn: ($11.85) K (2 players)
        UTG+1 bets $2, Hero calls $2

        River: ($15.85) J (2 players)
        UTG+1 bets $7.12, Hero calls $7.12

        Spoiler:
        Results: $30.09 pot ($1.35 rake)
        Final Board: 9 9 A K J
        UTG+1 showed K K and lost (-$14.87 net)
        Hero showed A A and won $28.74 ($13.87 net)



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        06-10-2012 , 09:24 AM
        Quote:
        Original raiser was a fish, SB was 9/6/1 with an agg factor of 6
        not be be harsh but here, on the turn you are almost certainly drawing and you can't even be confident when you make your flush here and villian doesn't fold immediately. let me guess, you wanted an ubernit to fold his overpair, TT or nutflushdraw?
        edit: oh I just realised he called out of the SB. that should narrow his range and realistically we could rule out those big pairs but not TT 66 55 etc. let me guess take 2, you were trying to make him fold a better flushdraw (because he isn;t folding a set here even if you are saying I HAS THE STRAIGHT) or a pair? he just min CRed the flop and even if he ocassionally does this as a semi bluff i bet he doesn't do it enough to balance his range or even get close to it.

        basically ubernits can have high AF because when they get past the flop they ALWAYS* have a hand that they will go to war with - I mean they waited so long for a hand. . (set and nut mine these bitches or just give them credit for a hand when they say they have one. seriously).

        against most, I would admire your efforts here but when he min checkrasies you. he ISNT bluffing here - he probably tried to CR the raiser but you bet and he said 'i dont care'.. the absolute best case scenario is that he is semibluffing a massive draw imo.

        *not 100% but you know what I mean

        Last edited by OziBattler; 06-10-2012 at 09:34 AM.
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