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can I bet river here? if yes, how much?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $4.70
SB: $7.74
BB: $2.02
UTG: $4.76
Hero (MP): $2.13
CO: $0.97

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 9

UTG raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 5

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, UTG calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.80) K

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

River: ($1.80) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ??

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11-12-2012 , 10:03 AM

#7028

8fpath

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoMD91

UTG raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 5

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, UTG calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.80) K

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

River: ($1.80) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ??

I would check it down. Hard to see him calling with anything you beat.
And I would raise more on the flop and the turn.

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11-12-2012 , 10:19 AM

#7029

Frostyice

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

not enough money to bet fold on the river lol

also more on turn

I would not raise flop, let him bet his Jx hands the board is dry enough to just call

If you raise flop make it bigger, if he calls you got a ticket to bet the **** out of him on turn/river

on esp. wet boards I'd make it 0.64 on the flop and shove turn for a PSB on these drier boards you can actually go lower on flop/turn and ship the river

if he has a T good for him take a note

Last edited by Frostyice; 11-12-2012 at 10:25 AM.

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11-12-2012 , 10:37 AM

#7030

HU4hoes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoMD91

UTG raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 5

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, UTG calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.80) K

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

River: ($1.80) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ??

sizing: all in
bigger flop
more turn

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11-12-2012 , 10:43 AM

#7031

IndigoMD91

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 792

yeah. kinda missed value on the river. he insta checked an this was a sign but I checked behind and he showed AA

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11-12-2012 , 11:16 AM

#7032

gamma001

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,144

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8fpath

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14511901

CO: $7.20 (72 bb)
BTN: $11.81 (118.1 bb)
SB: $4.15 (41.5 bb)
BB: $13.19 (131.9 bb)
UTG+1: $3.25 (32.5 bb)
UTG+2: $9.19 (91.9 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $8.08 (80.8 bb)
Hero (MP3): $15.24 (152.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.90, 2 folds

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These are spots I have trouble with constatly. I've lost a lot of money in situations like this. Folding is so painfull but thats all I can do?
Villian is 12/9 3bet 1.3

if its 1.3% 3bet over a decent sample then i'm just folding. If its over 100 hands i'm calling IP and playing cautiously.Getting it in here is pointless as your only being called by better.

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11-12-2012 , 11:59 AM

#7033

HU4hoes

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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($18.75)
BB ($76)
UTG ($80.60)
UTG+1 ($27.20)
Hero ($59.75)
BTN ($50)

Dealt to Hero 6

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, fold, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $11.50, BB calls $7

FLOP ($23.25) 2

BB checks, Hero bets $9.75, BB raises to $19.50, Hero raises to $48.25 (AI), BB calls $28.75

TURN ($119) 2

RIVER ($119) 2

Hero shows 6

(Pre 23%, Flop 56.3%, Turn 34.1%)

BB shows T

(Pre 77%, Flop 43.7%, Turn 65.9%)

Hero wins $116

Reg on reg violence

always good to stack your ftp nemesis

Last edited by HU4hoes; 11-12-2012 at 12:22 PM. Reason: just wanted to brag that i have 56% equity with 6 high :D

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11-12-2012 , 01:53 PM

#7034

gamma001

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,144

not sure i like the 4b pre unless he has a ridiculously high 3b and fold to 4b.

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11-12-2012 , 02:25 PM

#7035

HU4hoes

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he was folding to a lot of my 4bets so i figured may as well continue

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11-12-2012 , 03:36 PM

#7036

cha4zz

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 629

Before people go "buy in full", I had a $10 ring game ticket that you can't auto rebuy up.

Also my turn bet sizing is a bit funky, but that's not the point of this.

10nl is definitely dead with players like this.

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($9.82)
BB ($13.14)
UTG ($3.95)
UTG+1 ($12.59)
CO ($17.09)
BTN ($9.65)

Dealt to Hero 3

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold

FLOP ($0.70) J

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1

TURN ($3.70) J

Hero bets $2.65, UTG+1 calls $2.65

RIVER ($9) J

Hero bets $5.37 (AI), UTG+1 calls $5.37

Hero shows 3

(Pre 52%, Flop 93.3%, Turn 100.0%)

UTG+1 shows T

(Pre 48%, Flop 6.7%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero wins $18.43

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11-12-2012 , 04:32 PM

#7037

AndyM2033

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,936

Pretty easy fold, not sure if I should call if they both have sets, pretty close but being as a higher FD is likely its a fold, however. I would have got there with the offsuit 9. Dammmn.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14522641

BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $14.99 (149.9 bb)
MP: $5.78 (57.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.10 (101 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 3

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.67, BTN raises to $1.94, BB raises to $9.70 and is all-in, Hero folds, BTN calls $7.76

Turn: ($21.02) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($21.02) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Example of when you rep about 90% draws and 10% made hands. Turn brings his made hands down to even less. River was crap though, every draw beats me but he has 6 High lolz.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14522651

CO: $13.57 (135.7 bb)
BTN: $14.96 (149.6 bb)
SB: $2.79 (27.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $13.34 (133.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.34 (103.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.53, CO raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.87

Turn: ($3.55) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($7.55) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

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11-12-2012 , 05:02 PM

#7038

gamma001

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,144

I was thinking never folding that hand but Stoved range of big draws and sets and we crushed are with 22% eq. We actually have better equity if they both only have sets lol. Learn something new everyday

edit that actually seems pretty clear now that I think of it. Good fold mate

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11-12-2012 , 07:41 PM

#7039

Queen6Suited

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,876

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $154.77
SB: $240.61
Hero (BB): $134.49
UTG: $100.00
MP: $117.81
CO: $562.18

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4.00, SB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.00, 2 players) J

SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50

Turn: ($21.00, 2 players) 6

SB bets $15.00, Hero raises to $35.00, SB calls $20.00

River: ($91.00, 2 players) J

SB checks, Hero bets $88.99 and is all-in, SB calls $88.99

Hero shows 9

(Full House, Jacks full of Nines) (Pre 40%, Flop 66%, Turn 82%)
SB shows T

(One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 60%, Flop 34%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins $266.18

lawl

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11-12-2012 , 10:59 PM

#7040

HU4hoes

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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($94.15)
BB ($69.30)
UTG ($54.30)
UTG+1 ($26.35)
CO ($50)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, fold

FLOP ($2.50) 8

SB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

TURN ($6) 8

SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

RIVER ($15) 8

SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50

Hero shows K

(Pre 60%, Flop 80.0%, Turn 88.6%)

SB shows 9

(Pre 40%, Flop 20.0%, Turn 11.4%)

Hero wins $26.60

this guy is actually the worse reg ive seen on ftp at 50nl.

Last edited by HU4hoes; 11-12-2012 at 11:25 PM.

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11-13-2012 , 12:48 AM

#7041

khangura175

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,088

U sure hes a reg? lol..the flop donk is like 100% fish style

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11-13-2012 , 12:58 AM

#7042

Burnss

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,539

he 16 tables so yeh, def reg :P

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11-13-2012 , 08:59 AM

#7043

tiltph00n

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 162

Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14532541

CO: $10 (40 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
SB: $28.95 (115.8 bb)
BB: $32 (128 bb)
UTG+1: $32.45 (129.8 bb)
UTG+2: $33.75 (135 bb)
Hero (MP1): $48.83 (195.3 bb)
MP2: $22.09 (88.4 bb)
MP3: $25.52 (102.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $1, MP2 calls $1

Turn: ($3.85) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, MP2 raises to $5, Hero folds

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No stats on villain except he's not full stacked. Easy fold/call? What is his range? Why would he ever raise a FH here? Maybe straight?

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11-13-2012 , 09:03 AM

#7044

tiltph00n

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 162

Initial 3bet villain has high 3bet percentage, nice re-squeeze spot i guess. Dont know what cold callin 3bet en 4bet villain is doing. Standard cbet? Dont have a clue what his range is.

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Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14532551

BB: $29.12 (116.5 bb)
UTG+1: $52.14 (208.6 bb)
UTG+2: $8.75 (35 bb)
MP1: $9.45 (37.8 bb)
MP2: $13.16 (52.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): $29.93 (119.7 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $26.56 (106.2 bb)
SB: $30.20 (120.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, SB calls $1.90, BB folds, Hero raises to $5.75, CO folds, SB calls $3.75

Flop: ($13.75) K

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB folds

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11-13-2012 , 09:29 AM

#7045

chad0x001

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,558

I did wonder if I should call his flop raise so he could bet again on the turn, too many draws though - right?

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Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14532581

MP: $5.24 (104.8 bb)
CO: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
BTN: $5.15 (103 bb)
Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.05 (101 bb)
UTG: $5.45 (109 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.55, Hero raises to $1.39, BB folds

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11-13-2012 , 09:50 AM

#7046

tiltph00n

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 162

owned him

Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14532601

MP1: $26.86 (107.4 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $26.82 (107.3 bb)
CO: $39.75 (159 bb)
Hero (BTN): $34.86 (139.4 bb)
SB: $10 (40 bb)
BB: $31.83 (127.3 bb)
UTG+1: $37.84 (151.4 bb)
UTG+2: $8.66 (34.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2

4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.55) T

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.55) 2

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP3 raises to $6, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($16.55) Q

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP3 folds

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11-13-2012 , 09:50 AM

#7047

LosingShark

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Tilt hand 1: i think its a fold alot, i mean his stack is fishy but no reads = fold
hand2: i like the resqueeze to iso fish, c-bets fine pretty standard, we can prob betsize smaller tho

chad: no reads? i mean its pretty standard, prob betsize bigger with your 3bet/jam on non-club turn.

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11-13-2012 , 09:52 AM

#7048

LosingShark

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,008

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiltph00n

owned him

4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.55) T

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.55) 2

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP3 raises to $6, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($16.55) Q

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP3 folds

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thought process on hand? reads on villian, why check flop, why bet turn, why call turn, why jam river? ty

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11-13-2012 , 10:10 AM

#7049

tiltph00n

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 162

I think this board could hit his call 3bet range pretty hard. So I check behind and look what he is gonna do on the turn. Then when he checks turn it looks like his range is pretty weak, so when he raised this could only be a (bad) bluff. So i called and planned to fire like every river when he checks.

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11-13-2012 , 10:54 AM

#7050

Ajitam

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostyice

10$ ring game tickets are used to buy into ring games as Buyin, if you lose money on them and leave I think you can only buy in to the lower value

but if you win some money the value goes up again

you need something like 250fpp to *clear* the ticket

Also you need to clear the 250FPP with the ticket, you can't 4table and clear 4 tickets once you reach 250fpp I think you need 250 for each or 1k then

Think you have 1 week to do this

if you don't it's gone I think?

I used mine to play 10NL, whenever I doubled up or won some money I ratholed the winnings, granted I had 5$ on my FT account and could only get some 10NL tickets to start building a roll but it went quite decent

I know this is older post.
But still.

I just can't get it. What is the point of this tickets?
As far as I understand it - when you make 250 points it changes to $. So if I have 10$ ticket, you get 10$.
That's it?

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