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11-11-2012 , 09:40 AM
Anyone know how I can get the FTP sounds on to Stars?

I've looked in the Stars mod thread but apparently this is generally for table/deck mods

Thx
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11-11-2012 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 8fpath
What do you guys think is better for grinding, PS or FT?
I'm playing on FT 10nl rush to clear the deal me in bonus and made it to Gold status in 2 days and it looks like I will get platinum if I keep up the volume. As I understand rake is bigger on FT, but not sure how rackeback compares to PS. Anyone has the numbers?
Stars... Its not as rigged

FTP software is lovely - except the small lag between clicking the "bet" button and it actually registering that action... but im nit picking.

FTP, though, charges a rediculouse amount of rake. It worked out to be about twice as much bb/100 for me at FTP - and thats a big deal.

Not a huge fan of the Edge reward system - why they p*ssed about with a system that worked is beyond me. Stars rakeback sucks for a microstakes player yes, but RB isnt as important as a good pool of terrible players.

Imo, FTP is harder. The reg-fish ratio is too high at FT. Though, I expect things to change after the DMI bonus expires and the regs decide to go back and play at stars.
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11-11-2012 , 09:42 AM
just replace the \Pokerstars\snd\ with the ones you want to use
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11-11-2012 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LosingShark
could you explain for the lower stake newbs why it might not be bad? i mean isnt it pretty unbalanced and we can just call down more comfortably when he decides to 3 barrel?

i mean unless you guys have some leveling stuff going on?
Basically, if you think of the range of hands I call the flop with with a fish still to act, it's pretty much solely Kx higher Ax that I call preflop, and 66. If you think of the hands he's cbetting, it's incredibly wide, and it also includes all the lower Ax that he 3bets pre as a bluff. Thus, when the K falls on the turn, it's a lot better for my range than his, so he is going to check all his A5s kind of hands. However, if he only check calls all the A5s-AJ it is super easy for me to exploit him, so he needs to check some Kx too so his check call range on the turn isn't super weak. In reality he probably should put some weaker Kx into his range though than KJ, and just bet this himself maybe.

However, at 100nl, since he has no history with me I think he should just be playing more exploitably still and bet bet shoving, because your average 100nl lol reg never has air on the turn, and won't fold some Ax that he will check himself on the turn or river. Like I don't think I'm wrong in saying that a highish % of 100nl regs will even lol check AQ here.

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Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
@ Q6s

i think his check is pretty reasonable, and your turn and river play is also

@ Burns

PM me your FTP SN
Yeah I understand now, was thinking about it the wrong way, if anything is wrong with ^ correct it ty.
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11-11-2012 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
Anyone know how I can get the FTP sounds on to Stars?

I've looked in the Stars mod thread but apparently this is generally for table/deck mods

Thx
Locate your FTP sounds on your hard drive. Should be: .../ProgramFiles(x86)/FullTiltPoker/Waves

Open stars client: Options - > sound settings.

And replace which ever ones you want.

Also, if your not aware - there is a "Full Tilt Clone" table mod available... Its pretty good tbh

EDIT:

Ive changed my sounds - I think these are right:

Attention = Bell-5.wav
Card Delt = Deal-4.wav
Chip Moved To Pot = sweet-5.wav
Chip Moved From pot = sweep-3.wav
Check = Checkmark-4.wav
Bet = Bet-4.wav
Fold = Fold-3.wav
Time Warning = Alert-5.wav
Achievement = Bell-2.wav


Rest are kept the same.
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11-11-2012 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Frostyice
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Thanks! Very helpfull.
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11-11-2012 , 10:25 AM
Thx guys, awesome, livin the dream now back at 2nl
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11-11-2012 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Queen6Suited
Basically, if you think of the range of hands I call the flop with with a fish still to act, it's pretty much solely Kx higher Ax that I call preflop, and 66. If you think of the hands he's cbetting, it's incredibly wide, and it also includes all the lower Ax that he 3bets pre as a bluff. Thus, when the K falls on the turn, it's a lot better for my range than his, so he is going to check all his A5s kind of hands. However, if he only check calls all the A5s-AJ it is super easy for me to exploit him, so he needs to check some Kx too so his check call range on the turn isn't super weak. In reality he probably should put some weaker Kx into his range though than KJ, and just bet this himself maybe.

However, at 100nl, since he has no history with me I think he should just be playing more exploitably still and bet bet shoving, because your average 100nl lol reg never has air on the turn, and won't fold some Ax that he will check himself on the turn or river. Like I don't think I'm wrong in saying that a highish % of 100nl regs will even lol check AQ here.

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thanks for going over this, that made a few clicking noises in my head, in my head i was thinking his should be c/c weaker kx and barrelling for value (as you mentioned). but i mean ive never played 100nl but when a reg is isolating a fish, isnt his range going to be much stronger? i mean i love your bet/jam because its so weighted to bluffcatchers but are regs usually this unbalanced to make it profitable?

also now that this villian has balanced his c/c range, how do u adjust if he takes the same line and how do u adjust if he b/b/jams?
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11-11-2012 , 11:30 AM
Usually the higher you go the wider people are going to be isoing fish
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11-11-2012 , 11:58 AM
Mhmmm after a 1h session I'm usually sitting with 3BI on one table 2 BI on a 2nd and around 1-1.5BI on the rest of the tables adding up to 8-9BI across 4 tables

Then I check the session tab in my tracker thinking oh wow must be +3-4BI and I notice I'm winning at 1BI and running 1-2BI above EV and this tilts the **** out of me for some reason

I really need to stop checking the session tab @ HEM it's really tilting me
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11-11-2012 , 12:31 PM
I moved 50$ to FTP earlier this week to see what the fuzz is about. 5k hands of 5nl rush...
Spoiler:

Will stick to PS for now.
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11-11-2012 , 12:34 PM
hahahaha one of the best southpark episodes ever + best line on it^^


and in motherfkaz
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11-11-2012 , 02:51 PM
^^ margaritas for everyone
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11-11-2012 , 03:27 PM
Why should I not merge this into the zoom poker thread ?
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11-11-2012 , 03:32 PM
do, and change it title to zoom/rush aswell ldo.
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11-11-2012 , 03:50 PM
Wtf, "not post bad beats"?

I'm out.........lol
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11-11-2012 , 04:00 PM
Thanks for your help with win rates.

Can I check how many hands I've played on Pokerstars without a poker tracker?
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11-11-2012 , 04:35 PM
You could ask them to mail you your complete hand history and start counting without a tracker >

afaik there is one free poker tracker too soo maybe wanna get one
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11-11-2012 , 05:01 PM
Full Tilt is crushing my soul. I'm not even sure I can finish clearing the deal me in bonus.
Full of shortackers who 3bet me every single hand and when I do get it in I lose again and agan. I doubled up at least 6-7 shortstackes in last session :-(
Anyone have some good advice how to deal with them?




Guess at what point in my graph I moved to Full Tilt.
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11-11-2012 , 05:22 PM
Mhmm at the point you started getting rakeback?

I don't see a problem with the graph lol

Are you running below ev? it's not in the graph

Also this looks like a winrate of $0.18 /100 or so either way it's 5nl and 3.8bb/100 or 10nl and it's 1.8bb/100

still I don't see any problem 10-30k breakeven happens alot

Also I don't think the cause is that you're running bad I suspect a lot of bad plays so you should review your hands instead, and if you're not sure what to do ask the micro stakes strategy forum about hands you're unsure

Or ask here
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11-11-2012 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 8fpath
Full Tilt is crushing my soul. I'm not even sure I can finish clearing the deal me in bonus.
Full of shortackers who 3bet me every single hand and when I do get it in I lose again and agan. I doubled up at least 6-7 shortstackes in last session :-(
Anyone have some good advice how to deal with them?




Guess at what point in my graph I moved to Full Tilt.
so glad that i have seen someone else with the same problem, everytime they get me. i have had to deposit twice in the space of the week but i just cant catch a break.

great to see this thread. never had any interest in rush or zoom until i had this bonus to clear.

i actually to play really tight, play my good hands aggro, pretty much abc nothin fancy and they still beat me.

i hate the way if u lose a BI at the start of the session it can feel like you are chasing it back in a way.
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11-11-2012 , 06:06 PM
God I hate zoom sometimes. If this was the new better thread, i wouldnt post this but it is pretty lulzy.

    Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14511331

    Hero (BTN): $5.55 (111 bb)
    SB: $5.05 (101 bb)
    BB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
    UTG: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
    MP: $20.31 (406.2 bb)
    CO: $13.40 (268 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $5.02 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.77

    Flop: ($10.06) J 3 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($10.06) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($10.06) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $10.06 pot ($0.67 rake)
    Final Board: J 3 8 7 T
    Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$5.02 net)
    BB showed J 9 and won $9.39 ($4.37 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
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    11-11-2012 , 06:26 PM
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    Originally Posted by Schoolboy
    so glad that i have seen someone else with the same problem, everytime they get me. i have had to deposit twice in the space of the week but i just cant catch a break.

    great to see this thread. never had any interest in rush or zoom until i had this bonus to clear.

    i actually to play really tight, play my good hands aggro, pretty much abc nothin fancy and they still beat me.

    i hate the way if u lose a BI at the start of the session it can feel like you are chasing it back in a way.
    sry to burst your bubble but the graph is rakeback and not EV

    also he's not even losing money he's breaking even but actually winning money thanks to rakeback so he's not in need of a desposit or not even losing he's makin money
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    11-11-2012 , 06:38 PM
    Hmm, didn't realy realize 30k hands breakeven is standard, this is actually the first time I put so much volume in.
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    11-11-2012 , 06:44 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 8fpath
    Full Tilt is crushing my soul. I'm not even sure I can finish clearing the deal me in bonus.
    Full of shortackers who 3bet me every single hand and when I do get it in I lose again and agan. I doubled up at least 6-7 shortstackes in last session :-(
    Anyone have some good advice how to deal with them?
    Check who's behind before you open, if there's a crazy 3better behind then tighten up a bit, should make life a bit easier.

    There are other things you can do but this is definitely the best way to start
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