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Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14478421

UTG: $217.40 (217.4 bb)
MP: $31.40 (31.4 bb)
CO: $47.30 (47.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $119.55 (119.6 bb)
SB: $164.40 (164.4 bb)
BB: $138.60 (138.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5

UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($7.50) 2

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.50) 6

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.50, UTG calls $4.50

River: ($16.50) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Results: $16.50 pot ($0.80 rake)
Final Board: 2

UTG mucked 2

and lost (-$7.50 net)
Hero showed 5

and won $15.70 ($8.20 net)

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11-09-2012 , 11:47 AM

#6877

Queen6Suited

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wtf is wrong with rush, swear down noone wants to see a flop, just played 1k hands and got so so bored with it.

Also i get $6.03 edge reward things phour 4 tabling 50nl rush as gold if anyones interested.

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11-09-2012 , 12:03 PM

#6878

Frostyice

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

Gold? is 15% rakeback afaik? platinum is 20% diamond 25%

If you want platinum it's 150fpp/day average over a month

or 15$ rake per day in a month

Diamond is 35$ rake per day in a month or 350fpp per day

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11-09-2012 , 12:07 PM

#6879

Queen6Suited

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I have no idea, I know at 50nl zoom i get $12.50 an hour rb total if i get between 100k and 200k vpps for the year,

I expect at ftp i'll get about $10 if i've worked it out right once i'm diamond.

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11-09-2012 , 12:50 PM

#6880

HU4hoes

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I've played 5nl and 10nl rush, it's all in your heads boys

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11-09-2012 , 01:23 PM

#6881

HU4hoes

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
Hero ($76.25)
BB ($65.20)
UTG ($46.60)
CO ($48.50)
BTN ($50)

Dealt to Hero T

UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.25, fold

FLOP ($3.50) 4

Hero checks, UTG bets $2, Hero calls $2

TURN ($7.50) 4

Hero checks, UTG checks

RIVER ($7.50) 4

Hero bets $6.35, UTG raises to $21.50, Hero raises to $72.75 (AI), UTG calls $21.60 (AI)

Hero shows T

(Pre 80%, Flop 98.3%, Turn 100.0%)

UTG shows 7

(Pre 20%, Flop 1.7%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero wins $90.70

lol ftp is rigged

Last edited by HU4hoes; 11-09-2012 at 01:26 PM. Reason: ignore my river sizing, was in a rush to bet and i had TN on

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11-09-2012 , 01:26 PM

#6882

Suzukishosan

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,303

Do we get double rakeback during happy hour? I'm assuming not but can't find any info

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11-09-2012 , 01:27 PM

#6883

ratio946

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 201

What is a good win rate for 25nl? and what would you consider the minimum amount of hands to show your actual win rate?

Sorry if it too much open ended question!

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11-09-2012 , 01:42 PM

#6884

HU4hoes

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3bb/100 is the standard i assume nowadays

and 150k seems about right

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11-09-2012 , 02:10 PM

#6885

tiltph00n

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3bb/100 is not a good winrate, think a good winrate is around 10bb/100

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11-09-2012 , 02:15 PM

#6886

Burnss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tiltph00n

3bb/100 is not a good winrate, think a good winrate is around 10bb/100

haha..yeh goood luck with that...

love to know what bb/100 you would class as absolutely crushing!.

cause 10bb/100 is pretty close to that figure for zoom imo. and its going to be extremely difficult to achieve

Last edited by Burnss; 11-09-2012 at 02:21 PM.

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11-09-2012 , 02:19 PM

#6887

Frostyice

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,998

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzukishosan

Do we get double rakeback during happy hour? I'm assuming not but can't find any info

No, rakeback is calculated using the weighted contributed rake,

the fulltiltpoints you gain are based upon the rake

As you don't pay more rake in the happy hour the rakeback% stays the same you just get more FTP

5nl Rush is so fun

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $1.78
UTG: $7.21
MP: $2.50
CO: $5.16
Hero (BTN): $13.59
SB: $11.39

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 2

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.65, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.35) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($3.85) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.10, SB calls $2.10

River: ($8.05) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.60, SB calls $7.39 all in

Final Pot: $22.83
Hero shows 2

(four of a kind, Twos)

Spoiler:

Hero wins $21.31
(Rake: $1.52)

Guess villains hand

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11-09-2012 , 02:24 PM

#6888

tiltph00n

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnss

haha..yeh goood luck with that...

He asks for a good winrate, mine is 12bb/100 over a 35k sample. Not that big of a sample, also i have 10+bb/100 on 10NL over a 60k sample. But i think if you are beat the game really well, 10bb/100 is achievable.

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11-09-2012 , 02:34 PM

#6889

HU4hoes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tiltph00n

3bb/100 is not a good winrate, think a good winrate is around 10bb/100

never said 3bb/100 was a good winrate

and 10bb/100 is not good, it's crushing on some next level. Do try to get to 150k hands at all stakes and see what your bb converges too

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11-09-2012 , 02:40 PM

#6890

Burnss

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Originally Posted by tiltph00n

nice winrate....nice sample... 3bb/100 for zoom is a good winrate imo. Just because you achieved higher does not make it a good winrate.

anything above 5bb/100 over decent sample is very good imo

like i would be dissapointed if i moved down to 10nl and only achieved 3bb/100. but for somebody whos never played any other limit but that, its good

Last edited by Burnss; 11-09-2012 at 03:02 PM. Reason: misread

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11-09-2012 , 03:27 PM

#6891

Bocavi

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $23.44
Hero (SB): $10.90
BB: $10.15
UTG: $27.05 unknown
MP: $10.15
CO: $8.18 unknown

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.30, fold, fold, CO calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) 8

Hero bets $1.90, CO raises to $6.88 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.98

Turn: ($16.76, 2 players) 3

River: ($16.76, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:

Standard ?

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11-09-2012 , 03:34 PM

#6892

Queen6Suited

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tiltph00n

3bb/100 is not a good winrate, think a good winrate is around 10bb/100

3bb/100 at 50nl+ is good imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiltph00n

I think I've told you this before, but 35k is just completely insignificant, literally means nothing.
I've had 40bb/100 over 20k hands before more than once.

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11-09-2012 , 03:36 PM

#6893

GutshotDan92

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen6Suited

3bb/100 at 50nl+ is good imo.

I think I've told you this before, but 35k is just completely insignificant, literally means nothing.
I've had 40bb/100 over 20k hands before more than once.

I would very much like this short term WR...

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11-09-2012 , 03:37 PM

#6894

HU4hoes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bocavi

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.30, fold, fold, CO calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) 8

Hero bets $1.90, CO raises to $6.88 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.98

Turn: ($16.76, 2 players) 3

River: ($16.76, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:

Standard ?

don't even need to look at results but this is standard and stop being results orientated

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11-09-2012 , 03:52 PM

#6895

Suzukishosan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostyice

Thanks, that's what I expected.

On the website it says diamond "$2.50 per 100 points earned" is that bs then?

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11-09-2012 , 04:25 PM

#6896

Frostyice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzukishosan

Thanks, that's what I expected.

On the website it says diamond "$2.50 per 100 points earned" is that bs then?

It's an estimate, since we earn 10points per 1$rake or 10$rake 100points 2.50$ rakeback

Also it would be pretty sick if they'd double that in the Happy Hour, 50% Rakeback

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11-09-2012 , 05:08 PM

#6897

GutshotDan92

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Happy hour Gives you double fpps . Fpps are said to be worth4-5% rb , sp during happy hour 10% tops extra. Not bad tbh. But the main advantage too FTP is the bonuses. The deal me in bonus is worth 40% rb and I guess mid year bonuses will be similar (assuming they keep then )

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11-09-2012 , 06:02 PM

#6898

Suzukishosan

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bad beat story

Spoiler:

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11-09-2012 , 06:05 PM

#6899

Suzukishosan

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lol rush is soft story

Full Tilt - $0.50 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 157 BB
UTG+1: 98.5 BB
UTG+2: 55.9 BB
MP: 33.3 BB
MP+1: 45.2 BB
CO: 101 BB
BTN: 154.9 BB
SB: 133.5 BB
BB: 108.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, UTG+2 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: ($6.25, 4 players) A

BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, BTN bets 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB, fold

Turn: ($12.25, 2 players) 2

Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 30.5 BB, BTN raises to 51 BB, Hero raises to 117.5 BB, BTN raises to 145.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 28.4 BB

River: ($158.15, 2 players) 3

BTN shows K

(Two Pair, Aces and Threes) (Pre 7%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A

(Full House, Aces full of Threes) (Pre 93%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 310.3 BB

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11-09-2012 , 06:09 PM

#6900

Frostyice

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huh why'd you check the flop? Looks so drawy I'd getting pretty annoyed if a card like a heart or 2 or 7 comes that completes a draw :P+ also killing action for Ax hands

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