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Why you wont make it in poker Why you wont make it in poker

09-08-2010 , 09:52 AM
***WARNING THIS IS NOT A BAD BEAT OR POKER IS RIIGED THREAD - THIS WILL BE BRUTAL AND HONEST AND GOES OUT TO ALL BEGINNERS***

You probably know less about the game and are less talented than you think you know or you dont even know how to play. You dont take the time to learn or invest in computer software to track hands, books and coaching.

You feel you learnt enough or may even bought some books that you have flicked through once and they are now collecting dust on the shelf. Just because you bought many books and log into 2+2 and read some BBV thread makes you good - it doesnt. You have to really study the game, take the time, effort and money to do so, get a coach, join a group something that will give you HONEST feedback about your game.

You probably think you are too advanced to work on the basics and you want to run before you can walk. Everyone makes stupid mistakes and you will to, first you have to admit that you made a mistake then you can fix it for the future.

You probably dont accept the game for what it really is and you expect to win every night or to win large amounts of money in a short space of time, you expect too much too soon. It will be a painfully slow journey with many set backs.

You have the wrong motives for playing, it may be ego or for fun. You lack certain attributes to become a winning poker player - are you even capable of taking someone elses paycheck or are you the type of person that is to greedy and gets really personal when someone shows you a bluff and you want to get back at him. Are you quick to anger? Can you be honest with yourself?. You dont have the patience and lack the discipline needed.

You feel that you DESERVED that pot or that poker owes you something. It owes you nothing, you dont deserve anything.

Bankroll management is very important, you should only be playing in games you can afford to be playing in and have the right amount of BIs for that level. Not only that but you have to feel comfortable losing "X" amount of money or it could trigger tilt it could be 10NL or 600NL, if you dont like to lose even though the money is not of great importance to you then you wont make it in poker, the simply fact is - you will lose in poker you need to accept that.
  • Practice good BRM and drop down when you have to.
You probaly playing on a site with no rakeback or bonus, you didnt prepare for the very first step in our poker career and downloaded FTP or PS created account thinking nothing of it.

You probably play the wrong game just because the most popular games like NLH and PLO are pushed into the forefront doesnt mean you have to play them. Play all different types of games you may find that you are better at RAZZ and may even find it more enjoyable.

After you have really studied and read and re-read, posted on 2+2, got a coach and selected the right game, got your bankroll its time to play......
..wait no its not. Not only do you have all these things to accomplish (and more) but you must have a healthy life balance, it may be wife/GF, job or other hobbies, clubbing etc. You are not a robot even though you will be told many times about the long run and feel the need to put in a lot of volume it will not be possible, take breaks away from poker and come back fresh ready to play.

You probably dont "table" select correctly and even when you do you probably dont "seat" select correctly. See how confusing poker is you need to play for the long run but you cant just open 20+ tables and think its a good idea, drop down to 4. Not only do you have to select the site that best suits you, the game that suits, the level that you are bankrolled for, the table with weak players you also got to be on the correct seat to take the best advantage of the other players and you have to yet play a hand. This is why you wont make it in poker.

You probably cant accept that you lost a pot when you were a heavy favorite to win. You blame your losses on how bad the others play, guess what - if the other players are playing baddly thats what you want to happen but yet you feel the need to whine and complain about it if thats the case then you dont accept the game of poker, pick another game like chess, or snakes and ladders.

You may have understood some of the important poker concepts but you never use them at the table or you only use them when playing your A game then stop using them when playing your B or even Z game, not only do you play this way but you dont get up from the table and STOP playing you keep playing because you need to put in the volume and play for the long run. You have to be playing your A game all the time or else its just a waste of time.

You may even wrongly apply poker strategies because you lack discipline or love the action and play a more loose wild game which you justify WRONGLY.

You probably are not very good at hand reading and cant beat anyone except the weakest of players. And even when you do put others on hand ranges you cant jusity your reasons for that assessment. The same goes for reading people, you must understand his style and HIS reasons when he bets or raises you probably have made a wrong judgement of a player and then acted accordingly to that wrong judgement and thus made a mistake.




You probably
  • are easy to read and dont bluff often enough.
  • chase losses and move up in levels when you dont have the bankroll
  • play too passively
  • give into your emotions, fear, hope, love for action.....etc
  • have a big ego
  • have a lot pride
  • misread other players
  • give away too much information about how you play
  • dont keep honest records
  • have selective memory
  • dont take breaks when playing
  • become impatient
  • seek revenge
  • have unrealistic expectations
  • not honest with yourself
  • have stupid beliefs about poker
  • think poker is rigged
  • try to find evidence to back up what you are saying or how you think when its wrong
  • dont accept responsibility for your actions at the table
  • dont accept mistakes you made and blame luck
  • come to foolish conclusions based on little poker knowledge
  • dont accept the laws of probability and randomness or even understand them
  • play inferior cards to often
  • play too aggressively
  • take hands too far
  • cant improve or envolve as the game changes
  • cant adapt to other players and change how you play
  • cant stand to lose
  • try to prove something about you, the game or others
  • work outside your limitations
  • dont put in the volume
  • dont have a decent sample size
  • tilt too often
  • dont understand the theory
  • dont understand odds
  • cant explain your decisions
  • look for sympathy when you get a bad beat - you wont, no one cares.
  • dont keep yourself motivated
  • play too many tables
  • have a bad attitude to yourself, the game and others
  • cant handle the stress, the losing streaks, the bad beats
  • are not aware the effect rake has
  • dont think players are as good as you
  • think players are better than you and give them too much credit
  • dont work on your game and develop your skills
  • had an edge but now it has disappeared when you moved up or the game evolves/changes
  • overemphasize bad beats
  • keep playing when you are playing badly
  • bluff too much
  • are in denial about yourself, the game and other players
  • dont look at the larger picture and only have short term thoughts
  • give up easily
  • dont take your time when faced with a decision
  • dont go over your records or even keep good records
  • dont analyze yourself and your choices
  • dont understand other players, why they play, how they play etc..
  • dont understand what it takes to become a winning poker player
  • dont move down in levels when you need too, bankroll or otherwise
  • dont understand how LONG the LONG RUN IS
and many, many, more - this is why you wont make it in poker.

Last edited by ThinValueFold; 09-08-2010 at 10:16 AM.
09-08-2010 , 09:57 AM
cool story
09-08-2010 , 10:05 AM
This seems like it's should be titled

"Why I probably wont make it in poker"

BTW: Most people bluff to often and thats actually the major flaw.
09-08-2010 , 10:18 AM
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<<<<< yeah
09-08-2010 , 10:22 AM
this
is
why
Bartlett
and
JustinJude

wont
make
it
in
poker
09-08-2010 , 10:23 AM
I actually didn't read it, just thought it would make me look cool if I commented.
09-08-2010 , 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThinValueFold
this
is
why
Bartlett
and
JustinJude

wont
make
it
in
poker
But I've already made it in poker.
09-08-2010 , 10:26 AM
your 2 months on 2+2 have led you to create this masterpiece in which you detailed how you failed.

give us begginers some slack man
09-08-2010 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartlett
But I've already made it in poker.
cool story
09-08-2010 , 10:31 AM
You've made me feel very sad :'''(
09-08-2010 , 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by inthepub5
your 2 months on 2+2 have led you to create this masterpiece in which you detailed how you failed.

give us begginers some slack man
No I wont, you guys need to wake up. How often have we opened threads that started with so I deposited $20 what game should I play.......you are doomed to fail.

How often have we read "so I got dealt Aces and I lost how can I play it better next time"......you wont make it poker just stop.
09-08-2010 , 10:32 AM
A lot of this seems very similar to something someone just wrote yesterday.......
09-08-2010 , 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinJude
You've made me feel very sad :'''(
So what......I am not here to make you feel good, I am here (and others) to take your money thats the reality of poker.
09-08-2010 , 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
A lot of this seems very similar to something someone just wrote yesterday.......
Link please
09-08-2010 , 10:35 AM
tl;dr.

Poker is a fun hobby.

Bye.
09-08-2010 , 10:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThinValueFold
Link please
You won't make it in 2+2 if you can't find things for yourself.
09-08-2010 , 10:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThinValueFold
So what......I am not here to make you feel good, I am here (and others) to take your money thats the reality of poker.
I thought we were here to improve at poker and hopefully help others. Out of interest have you made it at poker?
09-08-2010 , 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
You won't make it in 2+2 if you can't find things for yourself.
i lol'd and i lol'd hard
09-08-2010 , 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThinValueFold
No I wont, you guys need to wake up. How often have we opened threads that started with so I deposited $20 what game should I play.......you are doomed to fail.

How often have we read "so I got dealt Aces and I lost how can I play it better next time"......you wont make it poker just stop.
Never has a child ran before he could walk.
09-08-2010 , 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblebee99
tl;dr.

Poker is a fun hobby.

Bye.
Poker is a fun hobby is something a fish would say. It is more than a hobby to some people - a source of income. Better players than me will eat you up for breakfast with this way of thinking. If you can afford to lose money and you only play for fun then fine play if for a hobby but you wont make it in poker and you will be giving away your money to the players that took the time to make it more than a hobby.

How does it make you feel knowing that you pay their bills?

Last edited by ThinValueFold; 09-08-2010 at 10:49 AM.
09-08-2010 , 10:41 AM
This may be a shocker... but there are people that play it for a hobby that also make money.
09-08-2010 , 10:42 AM
[ ] OP has made it
09-08-2010 , 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shane5495
I thought we were here to improve at poker and hopefully help others. Out of interest have you made it at poker?
No I havnt.
09-08-2010 , 10:43 AM
id like to see some of OP's graphs to show us how HE made it in poker.
09-08-2010 , 10:45 AM
Op go walk off a bridge or run into a knife. The world would be a better place for it.

      
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