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02-12-2015 , 07:22 PM
Don't let villain bink his ace next time.

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Nothing you could do there, you got the chips in as a 70% favorite
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02-12-2015 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Don't let villain bink his ace next time.

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Nothing you could do there, you got the chips in as a 70% favorite
Okay thanks. Its just that i seem to always lose with K-K. i got to the point that in the final table i avoid to play KK until some more players get knockout and i get to a position im already satisfied with the place\prize im in.
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02-12-2015 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bellini13
Okay thanks. Its just that i seem to always lose with K-K. i got to the point that in the final table i avoid to play KK until some more players get knockout and i get to a position im already satisfied with the place\prize im in.
This is way wrong, at the final table people will put in money with a lot worse than KK pre, i am exactly almost NEVER folding KK at the FT unless villain is total nit and shows extreme strength. Dont be biased, last hundred tourneys i think ive lost about 6 times overpair vs underpair preflop all-ins, that doesnt mean i will stop doing it, sometimes cards simply doesnt go your way.
Concerning playing 4 tables, well maybe start adding tables one by one until you reach as many as you can play comfortably tiled on your monitor, that way you should be able to squeeze at least 8-10 each 2 hour session or whatever you play.
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02-12-2015 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Anyway
This is way wrong, at the final table people will put in money with a lot worse than KK pre, i am exactly almost NEVER folding KK at the FT unless villain is total nit and shows extreme strength. Dont be biased, last hundred tourneys i think ive lost about 6 times overpair vs underpair preflop all-ins, that doesnt mean i will stop doing it, sometimes cards simply doesnt go your way.
Concerning playing 4 tables, well maybe start adding tables one by one until you reach as many as you can play comfortably tiled on your monitor, that way you should be able to squeeze at least 8-10 each 2 hour session or whatever you play.
Thanks. I know you are right its just something stupid i build up in my mind. Im reading the mental game of poker and know you are totally right ahah. Im trying to learn as much as i can, and tomorrow ill add more 1 or 2 tournaments.
Another KK hand, here i finished 7th ITM. I probably played this terrible.

PokerStars - $0.23+$0.02|150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 8,310.00
SB: 21,005.00
BB: 13,198.00
UTG: 5,435.00
Hero (UTG+1): 7,928.00
MP: 3,751.00
CO: 7,873.00

BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00

Pre Flop: (625.00) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to 7,903.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 7,753.00, fold

Flop: (16281.00, 2 players) 3 6 2

Turn: (16281.00, 2 players) 3

River: (16281.00, 2 players) J

SB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Threes) (Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Threes) (Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 16,281.00
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02-12-2015 , 08:44 PM
26BB deep we should open our standard raise sizing, this is huge overshove hence villains will have very strong range to call your shoves. But i spose with KK money is going in anyway, different if you have like medium pair or AK, we raise pre and villain shoves on us, then we can start to consider whether to fold or not.
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02-12-2015 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Anyway
26BB deep we should open our standard raise sizing, this is huge overshove hence villains will have very strong range to call your shoves. But i spose with KK money is going in anyway, different if you have like medium pair or AK, we raise pre and villain shoves on us, then we can start to consider whether to fold or not.
so since its KK its kinda ok to shove but the best play would be for me to raise and then react to what he does?
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02-12-2015 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bellini13
so since its KK its kinda ok to shove but the best play would be for me to raise and then react to what he does?
No i mean generally i would never shove any hand this deep, not even Aces, 26BB is enough to raise preflop. What i meant was that wiht KK it does not really matter, if you raise pre and then villain 3bets/3bet jams money is going in anyway.
Imo 15BB is kinda borderline where we go into push/fold mode, but it still depends on table dynamics, whether you can get away with small raises to steal blinds a lot.
There are some situations where we could have some total spazztard at the micro stakes who goes all in everytime so then we can maybe shove TT+ or smth pre.
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02-13-2015 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Anyway
No i mean generally i would never shove any hand this deep, not even Aces, 26BB is enough to raise preflop. What i meant was that wiht KK it does not really matter, if you raise pre and then villain 3bets/3bet jams money is going in anyway.
Imo 15BB is kinda borderline where we go into push/fold mode, but it still depends on table dynamics, whether you can get away with small raises to steal blinds a lot.
There are some situations where we could have some total spazztard at the micro stakes who goes all in everytime so then we can maybe shove TT+ or smth pre.
Okay i get it, thanks.
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02-13-2015 , 08:22 AM
Unibet is nice too to built a roll, 10-15BI is fine if you arent a spewtard
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02-13-2015 , 08:29 AM
Unibet players are the worst I've seen on the whole internet but I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner, who's going to need HM2/PT4 stats to improve his game and plug his leaks.
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02-13-2015 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dakk453
Unibet players are the worst I've seen on the whole internet but I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner, who's going to need HM2/PT4 stats to improve his game and plug his leaks.
What about pokerstars? Since its the most popular site i guess it will have loads of bad players (like me ) too?
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02-13-2015 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bellini13
What about pokerstars? Since its the most popular site i guess it will have loads of bad players (like me ) too?
The fish:reg ratio is far better on unibet. The rake at the low limits is also significantly lower on unibet IIRC.

But the problem is it's much harder to improve on unibet since you don't get a database that helps to highlight your leaks. And at the end of the day bumhunting 4nl isn't where the money is at, if that's your ultimate goal.

I'd say unibet is decent for the grinder who already has a solid game and wants to print some money. Think like, a 50nl or 100nl player (although I've no personal experience of those games - 10nl on unibet is lolbad though). If you want to get better, choose another site.
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02-13-2015 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bellini13
What about pokerstars? Since its the most popular site i guess it will have loads of bad players (like me ) too?
Play both. For example 3 tables PS to work on your game, and 3 tables on unibet to milk fish and boost your roll on stars to move up.
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02-13-2015 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Avizura
Play both. For example 3 tables PS to work on your game, and 3 tables on unibet to milk fish and boost your roll on stars to move up.
Okay ill see that when i have a bigger bankroll. Right now i only have 18.60$ and im grinding the 0.25$ 45men sngs on stars so i cant really play cash games yet
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02-13-2015 , 08:19 PM
You think at this leavel (0.25$ 45men sngs) i need icm software? im studying it but cant find any free decent software so i can see if its profitable to call\fold near the FT and in the FT. Is the reads i have on the other players trough my HUD stats enough or would i benefit of studying icm a bit more and use some software?
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02-13-2015 , 11:21 PM
SNGwizard is has at least a free trial.

I cant imagine there not being a free one though, It is simple enough that you can programm it in a day. Keep searching
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02-14-2015 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Arjen
SNGwizard is has at least a free trial.

I cant imagine there not being a free one though, It is simple enough that you can programm it in a day. Keep searching
I found one called chimp but it only calculates the value of your chips and doesnt make the math for the push\fold. I dont think ill be needing to make deals at this level lol. What i really wanted was something to assist me with the push fold.
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02-14-2015 , 11:13 AM
that is what sngwizard does

At least afterwards, i havent tried using it real time. But it works great for analysing your pushfold afterwards.
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02-14-2015 , 04:54 PM
Buy a footlong combo at Subway than contemplate your life decisisons.
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02-14-2015 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wh1teNorth
Buy a footlong combo at Subway than contemplate your life decisisons.
Theres no subway in Lisbon and i dont eat junk food. 8.6% bodyfat, sorry mate you mad?
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02-15-2015 , 02:57 PM
So today i played more 4 tournaments. 1 i finished 9th out of the money, with JJ vs 55 pre flop, he hit a 5 on the flop and i got eliminated. Other i got fairly eliminated at around 20th going all in with Q-K when i was shorstacked and got called by 2 guys, and then i got 2th and 6th giving me a 1.84$ profit for today. Im gonna post the hand i got eliminated in 6th, cause i was in 2nd place in the FT and lost it against the chip leader. Want you guys to tell me if i was dumb playing this hand and risking a better place in the tournment.

PokerStars - $0.23+$0.02|300/600 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 6,974.00
SB: 11,704.00
BB: 23,347.00
UTG: 6,722.00
Hero (MP): 14,766.00
CO: 3,987.00

BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 300.00, BB posts BB 600.00

Pre Flop: (1200.00) Hero has 9 9

fold, Hero raises to 1,200.00, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 3,000.00, Hero calls 1,800.00

Flop: (6600.00, 2 players) A 9 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 4,200.00, BB raises to 20,297.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 7,516.00 and is all-in

Turn: (30032.00, 2 players) T

River: (30032.00, 2 players) 2

BB shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 82%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 18%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
BB wins 30,032.00
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02-15-2015 , 07:48 PM
99 hand is a cooler dont worry, always calling the raise on this board texture when he can have flush draws and 2 pair etc, can fold pre to the 3bet if the villain is a nit and has not 3 bet yet, but with ur stack as played after calling it is a cooler. Don't worry
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02-15-2015 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wh1teNorth
Buy a footlong combo at Subway than contemplate your life decisisons.
This isn't BBV. Maybe you should contemplate your life decisions if your trolling BQ


Op keep it up
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02-15-2015 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ismileyoutilt
99 hand is a cooler dont worry, always calling the raise on this board texture when he can have flush draws and 2 pair etc, can fold pre to the 3bet if the villain is a nit and has not 3 bet yet, but with ur stack as played after calling it is a cooler. Don't worry
Ya i think i should have just folded when he re raised me. The thing is i was getting good hands at that time and was the 3rd consecutive raise so i thought he was getting a loose read on me or thinking i was just stealing after stealing so i tought he would be re raising me with Ax cause i saw him go all in with that before.
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02-15-2015 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bellini13
Ya i think i should have just folded when he re raised me.
Absolutely 100% not. Folding to that tiny 3bet pre would be terrible, coolers happen sometimes and you just have to shrug it off.
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