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02-07-2010 , 01:35 AM

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SovietRussia

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Originally Posted by javi

Advice from my g/f who shows $300+ profit over 200k sample size at NL2.

1) Only raise TT+ and AJ+
2) 3bet JJ+ and AKs+
2) Limp/call KJ+
3) Limp/call T8s+
4) Limp/call all suited connectors
5) Limp/call all pocket pairs
5) Limp/call A5s+
6) Bet full pot when you have it
7) Cbet 1/2 to 3/4 pot when you dont
8) Never double barrel
9) If you catch your 6 outer on the turn/river, overbet pot to make up for lost value
10) overbet rivers when you suckout
11) Slowplay the nuts on the flop

This should put you in the 25/5/1.5 range. Highly exploitable at higher limits, but absolutely golden for NL2. It is also a relatively stress free way to play, since it involves very little postflop thinking. You're basically playing your cards face up. I wont go into the obvious reasons why this works at NL2.

... Really? I disagree with multiple parts of this.

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02-07-2010 , 02:50 AM

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DonkDonkDonkDonk

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,598

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Originally Posted by GodBlessMaliSunSeT

I wonder if I shouldn't make something like a blog on this site so you could follow my progress >,<

You can set up a blog on like blogspot and you can get that linked to in the beginners forum sticky

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Originally Posted by GodBlessMaliSunSeT

What book should I read for Cash Games?

No Limit Hold 'em Theory and Practice is a very good book. I'd suggest getting that. Anything by 2+2 usually beats anything by big name pros. Except Barry Greenstein's Ace on the River which is a very good book but it is more about the mental side of poker than strategy.

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Originally Posted by javi

This is pretty bad as a starting out guide. Too much limping and calling. I agree with the bit about value betting thing but you then say 'slowplay the nuts on the flop', bit contradictory. Obviously you can play a whole range of styles at 2nl and still crush, but it's good to use a style that you don't have to dump completely when you get to 10nl.

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Originally Posted by toomuchpants

I know how people are going to react to this, but I learned how to start playing poker successfully by reading Play Poker Like the Pros by Helmuth. When he talks about getting started he suggests an extremely basic, but very efficient, strategy. At the nl2 level he suggests playing ONLY top 10 hands (AA, KK, QQ, AK, JJ, TT, 99, 88, AQ, 77) and raising to 7x the bb preflop. Now, obviously this is an extremely basic strategy but the beauty of it is that you will see very few flops, and when you do it is almost always against 1 opponent with an inferior hand trying to out draw you. It is pretty hard NOT to make a profit (although small) with this strategy. This is how I got started when I knew very little about poker. It will help you get rid of the junk hands you may be losing money with, it will teach you patience, and it gives you an opportunity to observe all the mistakes others are making (some of which are probably mistakes you make now) and then as you slowly get better at the game you will start expanding your starting hands and start paying attention to position and so on. I would recommend this strategy to ANYONE who has either never played holdem before or is consistently losing money. Think of it as a way to reboot your knowledge of poker, and then build on it over time.

I regard any strategy advice from Phil Hellmuth with distain. 7x pre is not necessary and only playing ten hands is missing so much value. I think it could work at 2nl but it's not going to get you the most money.

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02-07-2010 , 06:29 AM

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toomuchpants

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 6

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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk

As I said, it is by no means the best strategy or most profitable. The purpose is for beginning players to get a feel for the flow of the game without really risking anything. I, myself, only stuck with this strategy for about a week when I was learning to play. If you already know how to play the game then obviously you should be taking a more thorough approach. As I mentioned the BEST part of the 10 hand 7x strategy is that it forces you to be patient. The number one problem for most players, especially beginners, is that they play too many hands. If you start out playing poker with only 10 hands, then as you expand your range the game becomes so much more fun but its easy to remain patient because you start seeing 3 or 4 times as many hands as you used to, all while staying profitable.

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02-09-2010 , 06:33 AM

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GodBlessMaliSunSeT

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Hello guys,

I am sorry for the late reply, I really appreciate all your answers and I took them into consideration. I'll def. read the book from Hellmut if it can help me to improve in Cash Games.

If it can help you to see what kind of hands I play in NL2, here is my "list":

-I play aggressively PP, I always raise them preflop or call a raise, if there are many limpers, I only limp as well.
-AK/AQ
-AJ/AT depending on the position I have on the table
-KQ/KJ/QJ if I am CU or BU and first to act.

I hope it is fine

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