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11-03-2009 , 04:02 PM
Hand #2
Party Poker $5 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $4.40
BTN: $5.00
SB: $5.97
Hero (BB): $5.66
UTG: $5.06
MP: $5.08

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB
1 fold, MP calls $0.04, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.04, SB raises to $0.08, Hero raises to $0.22, 2 folds, SB calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.52) 3 9 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.52) J (2 players)
SB bets $1.45, Hero raises to $4.94 all in, SB calls $3.49

River: ($11.40) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $11.40
SB shows Kh Ad (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows 2s 9s (a pair of Nines)
SB wins $10.83
(Rake: $0.57)


Standard?
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11-03-2009 , 04:05 PM
no
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11-03-2009 , 04:09 PM
If I were a mod, I would delete this troll poop.
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11-03-2009 , 04:10 PM
y are u three betting light at nl5?
u just cost urself 120bb trying to use FE vrs an idiot that min raises pf, calls ur 3bet, donk bets near pot flop, donk bets near pot turn,
did u expect a fold??
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11-03-2009 , 04:12 PM
this is standard for a ******
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11-03-2009 , 04:16 PM
Total total spew.

Why are you trying to outplay players at 5NL? Play simple poker.
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11-03-2009 , 04:41 PM
Preflop - although SB could be making a move and you have position on him, 92s is still way too weak to be making a resteal here. If your read is that SB is tight or plays fit/fold post-flop, you could raise hands like suited connectors here, but with 92s there are no straight possibilities and you are playing with only one card. If your read is that SB is LAGgy (i.e., he'll call a 3-bet OOP with a wide range), then you would want to show up with top pair hands here that you can confidently bet for value. If SB is an unknown, I would assume he has a hand and pitch it. The bottom line is that if you are re-stealing, choose a hand that has some equity when called against Villain's likely calling range.

When SB calls your 3-bet, a lot of time he is going to have hands like mid-pocket pairs, suited broadway and maybe AQ. Against that range you are doing pretty well on the flop. I don't mind your call, since Villain may be thinking that you missed the flop and be trying to buy it with a PSB. However, I would be leery about getting too involved in the hand if Villain keeps firing away.

Which he does on the turn, on a card that is pretty bad for you, given Villains' probable range. I would just fold here. Raising to represent the flush is interesting (if that's what you were doing), but you are not going to have a flush very often here, and if Villain has the Ace (and maybe even king) of diamonds, he is going to call you anyway.
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11-03-2009 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ajrenni
Preflop - although SB could be making a move and you have position on him, 92s is still way too weak to be making a resteal here. If your read is that SB is tight or plays fit/fold post-flop, you could raise hands like suited connectors here, but with 92s there are no straight possibilities and you are playing with only one card. If your read is that SB is LAGgy (i.e., he'll call a 3-bet OOP with a wide range), then you would want to show up with top pair hands here that you can confidently bet for value. If SB is an unknown, I would assume he has a hand and pitch it. The bottom line is that if you are re-stealing, choose a hand that has some equity when called against Villain's likely calling range.

When SB calls your 3-bet, a lot of time he is going to have hands like mid-pocket pairs, suited broadway and maybe AQ. Against that range you are doing pretty well on the flop. I don't mind your call, since Villain may be thinking that you missed the flop and be trying to buy it with a PSB. However, I would be leery about getting too involved in the hand if Villain keeps firing away.

Which he does on the turn, on a card that is pretty bad for you, given Villains' probable range. I would just fold here. Raising to represent the flush is interesting (if that's what you were doing), but you are not going to have a flush very often here, and if Villain has the Ace (and maybe even king) of diamonds, he is going to call you anyway.
lol @ over-analysis
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11-03-2009 , 04:46 PM
there was some dead money in the pot and this guy was min-raising then flat folding really light post, so i figured 92s was ok to play IP. I usually nit it up at 5nl but does noone agree it was worth playing. I called the flop because of the flush draw, meaning i have TPTK but if he min raised an overpair i can bluff the flush, thats y when he bet out i actual thought i was ahead and shoved because i have 3 live 9's and 4 live 2's and he can fold every hand bar a flush. If i were at 50nl, wud this be a relatively normal way to play this hand?
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11-03-2009 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ajrenni
Preflop - although SB could be making a move and you have position on him, 92s is still way too weak to be making a resteal here. If your read is that SB is tight or plays fit/fold post-flop, you could raise hands like suited connectors here, but with 92s there are no straight possibilities and you are playing with only one card. If your read is that SB is LAGgy (i.e., he'll call a 3-bet OOP with a wide range), then you would want to show up with top pair hands here that you can confidently bet for value. If SB is an unknown, I would assume he has a hand and pitch it. The bottom line is that if you are re-stealing, choose a hand that has some equity when called against Villain's likely calling range.

When SB calls your 3-bet, a lot of time he is going to have hands like mid-pocket pairs, suited broadway and maybe AQ. Against that range you are doing pretty well on the flop. I don't mind your call, since Villain may be thinking that you missed the flop and be trying to buy it with a PSB. However, I would be leery about getting too involved in the hand if Villain keeps firing away.

Which he does on the turn, on a card that is pretty bad for you, given Villains' probable range. I would just fold here. Raising to represent the flush is interesting (if that's what you were doing), but you are not going to have a flush very often here, and if Villain has the Ace (and maybe even king) of diamonds, he is going to call you anyway.
Cliffnotes :

Don't 3bet 92o OOP in a multi way pot.
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11-03-2009 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lncredible
Cliffnotes :

Don't 3bet 92o OOP in a multi way pot.
oop? ip
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11-03-2009 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Telford09
If i were at 50nl, wud this be a relatively normal way to play this hand?
No - for the reasons stated in my earlier post.
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11-03-2009 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Telford09
oop? ip
Presuming Button and MP fold yes?
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11-03-2009 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lncredible
Presuming Button and MP fold yes?
im bb vs sb, im IP
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11-03-2009 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ajrenni
No - for the reasons stated in my earlier post.
do u see alot of people pot betting flushes?
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11-03-2009 , 05:44 PM
fairly standard
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11-03-2009 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Telford09
im bb vs sb, im IP
He means PF and he has a valid point. It's 5NL ffs, you're getting shoved on with almost any PP and you definitely cant make this move PF with 2 players behind.
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11-03-2009 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Telford09
do u see a lot of people pot betting flushes?
there is only one way to beat 5nl. Value towning to death and playing super straight forward. You can steal blinds from the nits and back off when shown aggression. The same can be said about the call centres, vtown second pair 3 streets until they start raising.

If you PTR the agro ******s playing 5nl, you will see that they are losing almost -10BB/100 over large sample sizes. Ive only come across one good uber lag at that limit and he plays pretty straight forward after the flop.


Save the bluffing for 100nl.
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11-03-2009 , 06:28 PM
absolutely terrible on every street, whichever stakes you are playing
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11-03-2009 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark89er
y are u three betting light at nl5?
u just cost urself 120bb trying to use FE vrs an idiot that min raises pf, calls ur 3bet, donk bets near pot flop, donk bets near pot turn,
did u expect a fold??
without reads i think this sums it up.
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11-05-2009 , 01:17 PM
Wow this is bad, plz learn to play
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11-05-2009 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by IamPro
Wow this is bad, plz learn to play
aryt maybe u dont iso raise any two against a player who plays every hand preflop and donk folds every flop, when every other player limps every hand then folds when there is a min raise and my 3-bet.

then puts all his money in with ace high, sure he was 3:2 dog on the river, i had his moneyz.

gurantee u never won a 200bb pot with AA never mind 92s
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11-05-2009 , 01:26 PM
plz teach me how to value 3bet with 92o
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11-05-2009 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lars1
plz teach me how to value 3bet with 92o
92s
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11-05-2009 , 06:17 PM
Cliffs:
dude posts thread with a horribly played hand
ignores all criticism and berates everybody saying he played it bad
[?] Telford09 is a level
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