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03-01-2024 , 10:20 AM
Hi all,

Looking for advice on how to do a monthly stat review using PT4. I feel like I am just adding random filters and looking at the results.

What should my approach be to a 30k hand stat review? How do you identify potential leaks?
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03-01-2024 , 06:13 PM
You're really only going to be able to look at preflop stats and possibly common flop stats for that low of a sample. I'd recommend looking at the following stats:

- RFI by position

- 3B vs RFI by position

- BB defense vs RFI by position and take a look at rfi sizings

- BB vs SB

- Fold to 3bet stats by position and ip/oop
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03-01-2024 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
You're really only going to be able to look at preflop stats and possibly common flop stats for that low of a sample. I'd recommend looking at the following stats:

- RFI by position

- 3B vs RFI by position

- BB defense vs RFI by position and take a look at rfi sizings

- BB vs SB

- Fold to 3bet stats by position and ip/oop
Thanks! I appreciate the input. Do you have any advice how I can improve a specific spot that I know I am weak. For example post flop play after 3betting from BB.
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03-01-2024 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tdammon
Thanks! I appreciate the input. Do you have any advice how I can improve a specific spot that I know I am weak. For example post flop play after 3betting from BB.
Looking at heuristics of equilibrium and compare/contrast with your own stats + pool.
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03-06-2024 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
You're really only going to be able to look at preflop stats and possibly common flop stats for that low of a sample. I'd recommend looking at the following stats:

- RFI by position

- 3B vs RFI by position

- BB defense vs RFI by position and take a look at rfi sizings

- BB vs SB

- Fold to 3bet stats by position and ip/oop
What would be the easiest spot to find good reference points? Maybe not exact numbers, but have an idea of how these stats should look like for me (or at least compare to each other, for instance having a wider range opening from later positions and so on).
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03-06-2024 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stefaneijg
What would be the easiest spot to find good reference points? Maybe not exact numbers, but have an idea of how these stats should look like for me (or at least compare to each other, for instance having a wider range opening from later positions and so on).
Since these are all preflop stats, then some type of preflop sim(s) would be ideal to be looking at. GTOw could be a good resource. Keep in mind that the ~optimal frequencies depend on a variety of factors and sizing plays a very key role. You can also compare your values with other winning players at similar stake(s). For example, optimal RFI could depend marginally on rake/opponents strat/whether or not you open ~0ev hands, etc. 3B % depends a lot on whether or not you are implementing a CC% range. The other values depend a lot on range composition of both opponents and allowed sizings.


As an example, here is a very general idea for RFI for 6max NLH with no antes

EP ~ 18% (14-22%)
MP ~ 21% (17-25%)
CO ~ 28% (25-32%)
BT ~ 42% (38-47%)
SB is about same as BT

Lower end would be tight, upper end quite loose. If you're outside those ranges I'd consider you either a nit or extremely loose.
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03-12-2024 , 11:30 AM
My stats (for a relatively small sample though) are
EP 14.5
MP 17.1
CO 21.6
BTN 37.3
SB 57.4

So overall I'm on the nitty side, but I think that's not so bad for low stakes?
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03-12-2024 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stefaneijg
My stats (for a relatively small sample though) are
EP 14.5
MP 17.1
CO 21.6
BTN 37.3
SB 57.4

So overall I'm on the nitty side, but I think that's not so bad for low stakes?
Likely too tight from CO regardless of how you perceive your skill edge vs. your opponents. BTN you can probably loosen up also. The weakest hands in your RFI ranges don't generate much EV, so being tight in and of itself is not a huge deal unless your opponents start deviating a good amount. The long term goal would be for you to identify the situations in which you can open wider profitably and improve your overall skill edge so that you are +EV with more hands, but these are long term goals.

SB 57.4, you'd want to look at your SB steal success.
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03-25-2024 , 06:36 AM
I've been playing around with stat analysis / database tracking for the last 2 weeks and developed a for me decent working spreadsheet which I fill in after every 15-25k hands.
Using the save filter option combined with "my reports" where I added all the stats makes it easy to keep it up-to-date. Takes like 10-15 minutes to fill it in. Also added a collom that compares my stats to avrg. pool stats. I'm currently tracking the following stats:

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