Hi all,

Turbo tournament. Blinds 300/600. Hero stack 20,000. Villain stack 40,000. Villain is solid player.

Villain raises MP to 1,800. Hero has 10h-9d in MP with position on villain and calls.

Flop: 8s-9c-10c.

Villain bets 2,500. Hero raises to 10,000. Villain calls.

Turn: Ah.

Villain shoves all in. Hero?

Thanks!

Fold PF. Please tell us why you think it is +EV to call PF. Thx

As played...folding is really an option for you?

Why are you flatting 3x opens in MP with T9s and a 33bb stack? Do you have a plan on how you're going to beat this particular villain, and/or are you certain that no one else is going to enter the pot after you?

I don't think it's very wise to put 9% of your stack in the middle in this pre-flop spot when you have ten high, but maybe there were gigantic antes in the pot, or some massive whales behind you were itching to overcall with 9-high.

10-9 often flops quite well, like oesds. I know this was a loose call but I was deep enough.

Folding was an option because when he called flop his range was quite narrow. He could have called the flop with QJ (16 combos), a set (less likely due to blockers), AA (6 combos) or A-10 (16 combos) for better two pair. I really hated seeing that ace on the turn. Or that's 38 combos plus the sets for around 44 hands.

Or (what I could beat) he had Ax clubs (12 combos) and shoved his combo nut flush/top pair or much less likely KK, QQ, JJ.

So 44+12=58 12/58=20%. He bet my remaining stack (10,000) into 23,200. I'd be calling 10,000 to win 33,200 or 30%. Not really getting the right price to call, right? To me this was a crying call, not one I was thrilled about.

no

also folding now would be terrible.

how deep do you have to get to make flatting 37o profitable?

Brutal call pre. You'r citing stack sizes as justification but you'r not deep stacked. When you raise otf you'r pot committed. Villain has enough draws and a lot of possible two pair hands and sets are unlikely given your hand and the action. I would expect to see QcJc/ AAs or 88s a lot in this spot.

T9s flops pretty well if you're the pre-flop raiser, especially heads up in position vs the BB. It doesn't flop as well as you might think when you're calling an EP/MP raiser's open. FWIW, I don't even flat in this position with 100bb, partly due to reverse implied odds.

How do you like your hand on QJ2 or AT5 or even KQJ, when villain has all the overpairs, top sets, two pairs and better straights in his range? The last thing you want to flop when you're about 30bb deep is middle pair and/or a non-nut draw, which are the more typical flop strengths you make with T9. Mid-strength hands with that stack size lead to really horrible situations like the one you got yourself into.