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TPTK OOP vs river shove TPTK OOP vs river shove

05-08-2014 , 11:45 AM
Zoom table so no current reads, stats show villain as pretty tight after 208 hands (11/5/5).

Did I play the hand too passively?
Its possible he thought I was just cbetting the flop, but his flop 2bet stats are (0 of 8).

Should I have folded the turn? Its a scare card that I would bluff on - but with those stats is he ever bluffing?

Again with the river blank, he *could* have a missed flush draw, but with those stats I'm leaning towards fold.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 88.2 BB (VPIP: 21.60, PFR: 12.96, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 165)
BB: 114.9 BB (VPIP: 15.13, PFR: 6.72, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 121)
Hero (UTG): 232.4 BB
MP: 104.7 BB (VPIP: 21.86, PFR: 15.85, 3Bet Preflop: 6.94, Hands: 187)
CO: 112.8 BB (VPIP: 10.73, PFR: 5.37, 3Bet Preflop: 5.48, Hands: 208)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 A
Hero bets 4.5 BB, CO raises to 15 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Turn: (37.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB

River: (93.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 66.8 BB and is all-in...
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05-08-2014 , 01:28 PM
looking at his range overall we are 50% 50% by the turn but the c/r really cuts it down to strong hands. T looks like a good card but it's the worst beside the 10D. A k doesn't help us and A sort of. I think we fold turn, so much aggression we are probably drawing to a Q only and we chop a lot with that anyways.
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05-08-2014 , 01:32 PM
easy flop fold vs fish
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05-09-2014 , 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by noobis
easy flop fold vs fish
Can you explain why?
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05-09-2014 , 10:48 AM
I think the flop reraise of villain is to check if you really have anything, he thinks you're just cbetting. A reraise here is a risky option, since you say he is very tight a call might be good here and re-evaluate on turn

on the turn you should fold, he continues aggression and the T made anything possible from 2 pair to straight's or straight draws, while you still have TPTK, imo the only thing he can have that you beat is KK or QQ, which still gives him some good draws, which will make the river a very difficult decision if a K rivers. But with this he would have 3betted pre, so I'm more leaning towards a good draw or he paired his J

Imo only 3 options on turn, fold to his bet, shove over his bet, or donk out. I'm more leaning forward to fold on turn. I think this is a marginal hand vs unknown villain hand, and you should avoid marginal situations
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05-09-2014 , 12:14 PM
^ he never has KK or QQ, his line wouldn't make any sense at all. He's not getting value from anything by raising and there are too many aces which won't fold (including AK as op is stubborn).

Villain doesn't have a very wide range here though.
He is a rock, so that's most likely a set. It could be some kind of AJs or KdQd but that's much less likely. Anyway, you are crushed by his range so this is an easy fold.
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05-09-2014 , 01:40 PM
Pretty much for the reason that Babarberousse said,its fast poker when passive micro pll raise you,you dont wana be there.
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05-09-2014 , 03:03 PM
Haven't read responses ....


Just fold to the flop raise. This guy is as tight as tight can be. Unless you have seen him raising a ton of flops and preferably have seen him showdown in similar spots with hands like AQ, FD (though there are probably even very few FD's in his range to begin with), 55, etc. just fold to the flop raise. He has JJ,99,AJ like always.
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