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07-25-2008 , 10:59 PM

h4x24

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227

WTF is SB doing?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $5.00
BB: $10.29
UTG: $3.15
Hero (UTG+1): $5.04
MP: $6.19
CO: $5.46
BTN: $10.18

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.85) Q

(4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.60, BTN folds, SB raises to $4.80 all in, UTG folds, Hero folds

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07-25-2008 , 11:01 PM

Lego05

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With no reads/info this looks like a good fold to me.

Just unfortunate if later you find out he's a complete poker idiot who just likes to push around a few dollars at 5NL.

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07-26-2008 , 12:01 AM

ilovethisgame

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he either flopped a set or has the flush draw. i'd have folded too probably.

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07-26-2008 , 12:35 AM

Darren

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calling all ins with top pair is usually a losing proposition unless you have a good read.

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07-26-2008 , 02:44 AM

ITSOVER9000

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Why would he shove with a set? I'm probably calling this.

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07-26-2008 , 02:45 AM

ITSOVER9000

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But then again, if he's decent enough he could shove with a set to represent a flush draw and get hands like yours to call..

But this is 5NL, i'd still call.

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07-26-2008 , 02:52 AM

pairtheboard69

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,520

i suppose a fold is probably correct since its such an overbet, but if you have any read that this player might lean towards the moronic side you might want to reconsider...his line obviously doesn't make much sense. why would he do this with a set? most people at these limits don't raise with flush draws, they call down. only thing you are really worried about is 48.8q.4q, aa,kk all of which are in his range

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07-26-2008 , 02:53 AM

h4x24

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Whoops I forgot to give stats.

SB stats: 61/28/3.5 over 18 hands

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07-26-2008 , 03:49 AM

LunaEqualsLuna

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Originally Posted by ITSOVER9000

Why would he shove with a set? I'm probably calling this.

For the same reason they will limp call Ace Rag, play any suited cards call down pot sized bets with bare overcards...Because they are donks. Calling huge overbets with one pair hands regularly at uNL is definately not recommend, the logic behind it is often 'I have a big hand so i must bet BIG!' You will also regularly see donkeys calling huge over bets with far less than TPTK, so he is probably hoping you are one of these donks.

Even against a 60VPIP maniac, without any history that he is capable of shoving like a donkey with worse hands than TPTK, i'm not calling.

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07-26-2008 , 05:28 AM

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ilovethisgame

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Originally Posted by ITSOVER9000

Why would he shove with a set? I'm probably calling this.

because its microstakes, because he is scared of the flush, because he believes he can get called by AQ.

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07-26-2008 , 05:50 AM

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rodders133

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I fold, folding to a flush draw is a smaller mistake than calling and being up against a set.

Dont go broke with 1 pr

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07-26-2008 , 07:47 AM

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NoCountry4OldDonks

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By the way in normal situations if he has a flush draw you're supposed to call but not on this situation. The pot has $1.45 after your raise and you have to call another $4.20. Its just a terrible price you're getting. So a fold here is good.

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07-26-2008 , 07:51 AM

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Night.mare

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Originally Posted by NoCountry4OldDonks

What does this mean? If we know he has a flush draw here, we should call so fast it would make the villain's head spin. We'd be somethign like a 70/30 favorite.

Oh, good fold OP.

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