is + not = "isn't"

also it's fine to start a sentence with "and" in some circumstances. reads fine in informal writing when used sparingly.

yay more money in the poker pool

This thread amazes me.
OP:

1)please grow up. please, for the sake of all the other teens.
2)wake up
3)stop being cliche
4)go to school

straight up: there is NO way youre going to succeed in anything if you dont finish school. No, youre degree doesnt really matter (that much). However, your refusal to put up with boring work that seems useless does. People who are succesful without degree are people who dropped out with something (skill, company) and/or were smart/determined enough to not ask these questions.
and most importantly: there is nothing that prevents you from doing both. Youre probably using poker as an excuse to leave school, not the other way around.

Also, I dont really think youre asking questions here. Youre probably already determined to go with it. Gl

edit: oh, and, 2p2, stop reading self help so much. Srsly, go out, do something, w/e, but these copy/pasted cliches that got burned into your brain by reading 865 self help books really start to tilt me

Hey krax, as sed before, I didn't leaved school, got my DES
(im in quebec so I dont know what's the equivalent in U.S but
I think it like grade 12 or something for you guys)
Im just not willing to go learn a proffession and do a daily boring
job or work in a shop the rest of my life.

Yes poker is a grinding but it's also challenging and Im the kind of guys
who never ever give up and will learn from my mistake.
Everytime I do a mistake I look back at what I did, think about it
and figure out a solution in case it ever happen again.

You are also right, my mind is set, I will go into deep learning of poker
and become a winning player. When I started that thread I wasn't sure
but with a few positive answer it meen it is possible to do it
even if the challenge is hard. Im actually working at a cellphone shop,
doing around 12-15hours a week and im the #1 vendor in my store
selling an average of 3 phone a day (compared to full time vendor who
have an average of 3-5/weeks, it great)

My job is getting to easy, when there is no challenge I get bored
and want better "opponent" and I think poker can afford that to me.

I really think I can do it, I've aleready read two books about poker till
I began that thread and also just started "The theory of poker".

If you guys have any orther suggestions of books or anythings else that could improve my win rate, it would be greatly apreciated.

PS to Tissy187: I really hope to met you on a table in a couple of month and see who's gonna
lose to who

Thanks guys,
cya
-Clazzi18

hell no and dont do it.

Poker isn't art

Why does everyone think it's such a compliment to call something an art form?

Art is when a 19-year-old who flunked out of high school goes to community college and makes a paper mashay phallus out of dollar bills and says it's a criticism of corporate greed

Calling something an art form isn't a compliment, art is stupid

And poker isn't art

It's about as far from art as any activity can possibly be

Listen to your parents man, seriously.

You will need to come close to mastering it in order to make a living at it.

This post was from a few days ago. To update it: Isidur1 has lost over 3 million in the last 24 hours. So you don't want to run like him.

Aren't you a losing player? Or just barely beating the micros or something? I seem to remember some threads by you.

op if you spent 1/2 as much time studying your game, as you did trying to convince us that you could become a winning player, you would be at NL1k alrdy

Oh wow, Yet Another Wannabe NLPro. (YAWN).

I propose a sticky for this kind of thread. It used to be 'Can I fold KK preflop' that polluted the forums, now its wanna be poker pros with threads effectively titled:

I'm a naive poker novice, can i turn pro in x months?
(where x < 3)

A 19 year old who doesn't want to listen to teachers his parents, doesn't want to work to get a proper job, get an education, but thinks he can just suddenly be a poker pro in a few months despite no knowledge of the game. (play money or reading books is not what I call knowledge of the game)

As much as I welcome new fish to the game, this is just sad.
Go to school or get a full time job, learn poker on the side.
At 19 you should be going to get a degree, almost doesn't matter which one, if you don't have one you are going to be sorely at a disadvantage in the future. I don't agree with it, but I don't make the rules. You will have tons of free time to play poker in college with the advantage of having a back up to rely on.

Anyway if you won't listen to your parents or teachers you most certainly won't listen to any advice on these forums unless it is something you want to hear. Hopefully you just bust your roll quickly and realise how naive you are being and go back to school

Oh and lol at the people encouraging this guy.

not a chance imo, go back to Mc Donalds

no, you are not. You gave up school. Im going to tell you right now what will happen to your poker carreer:
1)Phase one is already done, read couple of books, seen a lot of graphs with 6 figure winnings, full of enthusiasm etc etc
2)start to play
3)probably move up couple of times, god's gift for poker etc etc
4)first downswong
5)bad beat thread at BBV, still saying that its variance, you get it, w/e
6)second downswing, this one is worse
7)poker is rigged thread at BBV
8)tilt
9)busto
10)you start to search for other "get rich quickly and easily" opportunities out there. You'll probably find something and fail in that too.

I know that you think: "well, I dont need some way to become rich quickly and easily, I will work for it." But thats your mind filled with self help cliches trying to convince you that you are special, so you feel good. You seem to run from real targets (hence quitting school), thats hard evidence.

Study AND play poker. First of all, there is NO WAY, you will be able to spend 8 hours a day playing right away. Only handful of people can do it and these guys have been playing for years. Believe me, poker will leave you with enough free time to finish school.

Look, my posts seem harsh, but I've been through it (when I was younger though), Ive read more self help than most people out there when I was 15-16 and it took two years to digest it, leave the important stuff and throw out of my head the rest. You really are far, far away from reality. No offense though, just trying to help.

Also, I am flattered that you think Im American

get back to school - collage or trade -just get a education. and get a job ,then when your supporting yourself and fufilling all your reponsibilitys then consider poker as a supplement to your income,if you can win consistantly.

??

u all think im a losing player.

i crushed 2nl for 4000 bb's in a week and ill be at 10nl by 01/01/2010.

i said i was having trouble with downswings i mean i dont care 1% about people sukin out but asked if it was better to play crazy but obv not, tight is right at 5nl but wen i move up itll be way different.

i acc think i can beat 25nl and 50nl faster than i will beat 2nl, 5nl and 10nl if i run gd but well see

agreed that u need an education. i had posted basically the same thread as this and got the same answers.

im going to work part time and pump all my money into building my roll for 100nl over the nxt 10 month or so. then go to college and learn mechanics or sumit whilst earning even $100 a week at 100nl. then as i keep playing ill know wether to go for the top or get a job.

i still feel i am thee degen, so ill prolly go for it

The enthiusiasm is great but wat makes u think u will crush nl25 and nl50 faster then nl2 and nl5 lol? Let u in on a lil secret, players get better as u move up not worse.

untill you get to some of the levels that you see on tv...then its eeh lol

i know they do, i have alot more confidence in wat they are actually doing. sometimes 5nl players are unreadable because they are soooooo stupid. i can read better players better and also giv them more respect in certain spots and also giv them less respect in certain spots and i prolly b playing a smaller field so ill know my players better n probz buddy list a few easy fish. i do sit with mostly the same people at 5nl too tho.

i mean i need to run gd or ill prolly be at 10nl in a week lol once i start 25nl but in saying that i cud run to 50nl in a month a bit more maybe. just wait and see if u dont believe me

Yes, but not for a quitter.

i thought that for a little while when i started beating 5nl.





it's not true. you'd die if you played 50nl now.

lol

Hey Clazzi18 - If you have the skills, the willingness to learn and the discipline to not tilt away you your funds then you can make a bunch of money. This could take at least 2 years though (if you play a lot). I assume you live at home so you could easily get a bogus CEGEP degree (choose classes where you watch movies and play sports) while spending the rest of your time learning the game and earning. At worse, you could get an easy crap job and save up thousands while you learn the game and earn.

Oh and making the effort to attend CEGEP classes & keep up with the (easy) assignments will help A LOT with your poker discipline.