Hi there 2+2, im new here so I'll present myself.
My name is Dominik, im a 18years old boy from quebec in canada
and I'm thinking of playing poker as a ''job''.

I'd really like to be able to live from poker insted of a boring daily job.
My parents always tell me to go back to school and get a good job
but I can't stand to ear a teacher all days long even if it only for 2-3years.
I'm curently looking for a way to make money online and be able to live
insted of surviving in this world.

So here is my question, do you guys think it is possible for a newcommer
to learn the art of poker and start making it a living in less then a few month?

And also is there enoupg ressources on 2+2 to actually learn what is needed to become a winner?

I'd really apreciate your answers

Thanks and have a nice day !
-Clazzi18

If you think listening to a teacher is bad, you'll kill yourself having to listen to all the ******ed talk that occurs around a poker table.

Actually ******ed talk around a poker table is not something you are obligated to learn and accept while if a teacher tell you something, it is clearly the good answer and you can't have your own opignon.

Simple Answer......

No.

your so far from reality you have no idea.

No.

then what is reality

No way you can learn poker and make a enough money in a few months, takes months to years to master the game.

but even it it not in a few month, do you guys think it's a good things to spend alots of hours learning poker and eventually grind it and live with it? I saw someone do it in few months and master it pretty well (chiren80) so why are you guys telling me it's impossible.

I've played a few rl games with friends and beated them ''easily'' after reading a few strategy on the net, what make online poker so mutch harder or even clearly impossible to live with it under a few month?

If you have to ask this question, the answer is clearly no.

Ignore Bannnnnnnn and Cry Me A River, i'm guessing they're on their periods or something. (great way to encourage a new player to the game :?)

It's possible to beat micros within a few months of playing if you have a basic understanding of poker to begin with. You'd ovbiously have to put in alot of work from the get go. You wouldn't be able to sustain a living from these (unless you put in a sick sick amount of volume, rendering you with no life apart from online poker). Chiren isn't that great at poker, but he put's in a sick amount of volume. He has a small win rate, but plays a sick amount, these are related.

Deposit (get rakeback by signing up through an affiliate if you sign up at fulltilt) and just start playing some low buy in SnGs or cash games and see how you get on. Work out where you made mistakes, post hands etc...

That's not what he asked.

He asked:

My answer was, "No".

Oh, and so was yours:

There are always outliers. Some guys are ready for the NBA at 17. However most people will never play in the NBA at all. So when some random asks, "Can I go from zero to pro in a couple months?" the answer is, "No". Especially if they're talking about doing something dumb like quit school to chase a poker fantasy that has very little connection to reality.

I didn't imply that was what he had asked? What's the point of your post?

Yes he was disillusioned into thinking he can become chiren in 2 months time, I was steering the topic in the direction of - if you start learning now you can make some money, build a roll and improve as apose to just being a douche like you were. Thought it was important to encourage people to take up the game and add to the player pool.

f the haters

u can do it OP

First thing you need to do is figure out how much you will need per month to live off, ya know rent,food what not.Second, how much are you willing to lose to try and make that money?are you going to deposit $10 or $1000?Third, have you ever played online?And last, can you sit in a chair all day long stairing at a computer day after day after day after day? Sometimes its better to learn by doing not asking.So, take a day in the near future, sit down and see what you can do online.You either win or you lose, it's quite simple.

Not in a few month, no.

Thanks for the answers guys, actually yes im able to sit on a chair infront of computer all day long (Im aleready doing it but it would be better if there is an income at the end) and I didn't leave school, just dont want to go to college.

I also played online poker alot didn't tryied with real money yet, I play 5 table at the time on pokerstars and player alots on facebook before but I think it would be good to get real money from poker insted of virtual chips.

I didn't sed master the game but only get a living out of it.

Well, I guess i'll read alot and do my best to learn the faster I can
If you guys have a book to recommand for texas hold em (more then basic rules) I would really apreciate :P

thanks for answers and have a nice day !
-Clazzi18

It's kinda scary how naive this post sounds. I dunno if it's just the tone of your writing or w/e.

You can't go from having 0 experience playing real money poker to pwning games in 2 months. Do not rely on this as your sole sorce of in come. For the love of god, get a part time job, something on the side that you can do to keep cash flowing in while you are learning.

It's inevitable that you will lose before you/if you start to win.

Also, it would be wise to persue some sort of college education.

Poker is fun, and it's possible to make money from it, but don't **** up your life at the age of 18 because you want to take an easy way out. Have other options.

How is, "No" being a douche when it's the truth and you agree with it?

I wasn't discouraging him from taking up the game. I was discouraging him from dropping out of school to pursue a poker career based somebody he heard about on the Internet and with virtually no first hand experience of his own. Just like the last 20 people who've made this exact same thread. And as I will for the next 20.

Yes, definitely better to play into his fantasy world than to just give him the straight up truth.

You can make a living off poker ... but it won't happen right away. Like anything in life, you will need to study and work your ass off to get your game to the point where you can actually MAKE money on a consistent basis (e.g. I slaved away at 2NL for 11 months before I "got it")

Even then, downswings of 10/15/20+ buyins will be NORMAL. You gotta be mentally and emotionally tough to not only withstand this, but to accept it as a NORMAL occurance, and to stick to the EV+ play even if you end up getting sucked out on by a donkey for the 20th time in a row.

A few months? Unless you're a poker savant and/or run like isidur1 (i.e. like God), then it's a flat out no. But read the stickies (top of the beginner's questions forum, under FAQ's) and apply their knowledge, and then eventually over months and years, you will build the base required to be a winning player.

It's a long road, but as the monthly graphs thread in BBV demonstrates, it is possible to win at this game for substantial amounts of money!

GL bud

You win, i don't post in here often, didn't realise it was like this. My bad.

CMAR is right.

It takes more than a month or two to learn how to beat the game and more importantly hold onto your bankroll. If you are having trouble sitting through lectures you may have trouble maintaining the mental focus it requires to grind out 12 or more tables 5-6 hours a day. It takes a lot of self-discipline to maintain your br once you have learned how to beat the level you're playing at. Now I'm sure there are some who aren't into school like you are who are successful poker players, but going to school will probably only help your game.

Playing poker for a living often sounds glamorous to young players, but in reality it is a grind. I think you should go to school while playing poker at the same time. University students have a lot more free time than people working a 9-5 job so you should have plenty of time to play poker. If you get good enough to beat 2-4 then you can consider playing poker full-time.

Chiren is pretty much a pro gamer with a ****ing insane mentality from grinding crazy, crazy amounts in WoW, enough money for a serious roll, and enough dedication in terms of studying and preparation before he put his money in. That's the difference between him and you as far as I can tell.

Why cant you go to school and study poker at the same time? You could even make it interesting and take a few electives that relate to poker e.g. Psyc or maths. If you dont have the discipline to succeed in school making it in poker will take years off your life. Learning and succeeding is a marathon and not a sprint.