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Taking advantage of first impressions people might have about you and how you look. Taking advantage of first impressions people might have about you and how you look.

03-10-2014 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Billly
lmao



Im a 30 yr old grown ass man dawg.

I see. So you're saying these techniques won't really give me an advantage?

Im less concerned with how it works in micro stakes and low stakes as opposed to just the overall theory though.

I think the benefits of playing so many years of Zynga poker allowed me to be more freestyle and experimental wit different flows and just experimenting with different hidden agendas that are more volatile. But I think I learned a lot of how to really push the limits. I played a lot of characters and told a lot of stories in a free and exploratory way. I feel like those lessons taught me there is no true ceiling to the game. I feel like I could theoretically beat someone of great skill better than I can do systematic pro style play and being an efficient fisherman. (for now) Though it doesn't really translate playing free, it taught me other things.

Like I said I am more interested in theory. Because I feel like I have been studying for poker longer than I have really been "studying poker."

I have been studying it my whole life because my whole life involved studying people, whether through business, or selling, or psychology, or relationships, I have always been processing the world from this 3rd party perspective from deep within my id which is a product of the abuse I sustained as a young child in elementary school from having moved from Romania and Germany, to the underworld and ghettos of Oakland and the bay area. I was always trying to be different people at every new stage of my life due to my constantly changing social conditions. And having been so involved in such a multitude of cultures (a combination of events that is rare for individuals to experience) that I gained much knowledge from seeing the differences in cultures.

The contrasts of different cultures yields some of the most profound information about the human condition known to man.

And I don't mean just visiting there. I mean actually being there, as a child who is still developing. When I would hang out with other kids, I would BECOME that kid for awhile. And it was like that my mind just developed this 3rd party perspective to coral all these different identities which modern day people call a Dark Triad. But I didn't do anything wrong. Its not my fault. Im not evil. I was just traumatized and thats why I have this "permanent poker-face" type of vibe that people always tend to misjudge me by. (Im honestly a really positive and friendly guy IRL)

So I just figured maybe I could benefit some advantages from these traits.

Woah... find me in the 75/150 game this weekend, and I'll buy you a Macallan (or two/three) at Shadows and discuss your possible sociopathy. Should be an entertaining few drinks...
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03-10-2014 , 10:38 AM
If you are such a good actor and worried about your looks playing such a vital roll here is a key list you need to do to not be worried.

Eat more
Stop working out
Don't do your hair
wear baggy unfitted clothes
Get pale and stop tanning

Now you will look ugly and nobody will give two shi-ts about you at the table like they are probably doing now with the way you look.
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03-10-2014 , 11:31 AM
The girls be mirin' and the guys be jelly.
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03-10-2014 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by denks
Head says troll. Heart says please don't be.
Sorry was that too controversial? Did I go too far bringing up Zynga? Am I not allowed to go there?

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Originally Posted by z4reio
Woah... find me in the 75/150 game this weekend, and I'll buy you a Macallan (or two/three) at Shadows and discuss your possible sociopathy. Should be an entertaining few drinks...
It all began when I was just a young boy, my father, a carpenter and my mother, a housewife showed me all the love in the world. There was a fresh scent of wilder-berries as mom baked in the kitchen...

Ill tell you more over those drinks this weekend, ill pm you. Can you also give me some general insider tips and advice here and there especially about your experiences at TS and such?

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Originally Posted by daveh07
If you are such a good actor and worried about your looks playing such a vital roll here is a key list you need to do to not be worried.

Eat more
Stop working out
Don't do your hair
wear baggy unfitted clothes
Get pale and stop tanning

Now you will look ugly and nobody will give two shi-ts about you at the table like they are probably doing now with the way you look.
Well I am not sure I want to get rid of the phenomenon, rather embrace it and see if I can get some consistent and systematic advantages in short bursts here and there making people think Im playing LAG when Im secretly playing TAG etc...

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Originally Posted by denks
The girls be mirin' and the guys be jelly.
Why you mad brah? Come at me bro.

Last edited by Billly; 03-10-2014 at 11:50 AM.
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03-10-2014 , 02:52 PM
Cannot take OP seriously.

Why would you choose that kind of avatar for a poker strategy forum?
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03-10-2014 , 03:08 PM
More importantly, does he even lift?
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03-10-2014 , 05:39 PM
Sick Body brah
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03-10-2014 , 09:39 PM
Lol you're a joke
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03-10-2014 , 11:49 PM
Took down avi --too many brahs gettin mad jelly, some were mirin, but would rather be able to talk about advice without distractions.
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03-11-2014 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Billly
Took down avi --too many brahs gettin mad jelly, some were mirin, but would rather be able to talk about advice without distractions.
I can give you some good advice.

Quit acting like a really dim witted giant douche or no one will ever respect or take you seriously.

Good luck.
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03-11-2014 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
I can give you some good advice.

Quit acting like a really dim witted giant douche or no one will ever respect or take you seriously.

Good luck.
You mean like they'll call all my bets?

Remember: a lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

Why would I want to be friends with some judgmental prick who actually uses the word "douche" anymore? Id rather just date his daughter who is not a hater and thinks my cocky personality is actually funny/entertaining. Those are my preferred social interactions nomsayin'.

Counter-advice: don't care so much about what other people think of you because outside of business none of that matters or has any consequence. Especially not at the poker table.

Lol stay beta, insecure, and judgmental though. Im sure women are really impressed by that deep down inside.
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03-11-2014 , 09:08 AM
Im wondering if you guys can direct me to any valuable resources that have to do with the psychology that involves acting and particularly with two things:

1) Ones behavior right as they sit, while they start up, and how to take advantage of the fact that those strangers don't know anything about you. Most people just begin to play, but what about investing more into that dynamic and taking some advantage from it to at least win one big hand or two before people start to get an idea of your true "abilities."

2) Behavior that has to do with purposefully playing seemingly aggressive hand to hand just to trap people into thinking you're stupid and making them pay much more than you "lost" by throwing money at you when you actually aren't being "stupid."

My whole life, people's first impressions of me have been really annoying. Usually small-minded people for some reason (insecurity) think Im an idiot or a douchebag just by the way I look. I am in the Screen Actors Guild and have been involved in many productions with acting and directing and so forth.

In other-words, im a pretty looking guy.

Different people react in different ways to this phenomenon and I want to make people pay for misjudging me and I feel like poker is a possible vehicle for this. I am usually very internal and soft spoken and sometimes people mistake my genius for ******ation or autism or something I don't know. Some people also are under the impression that all attractive people are stupid.

I often times get weird reactions to me. Like people overly folding or overly calling me, --and its always so dramatic. I have cleared out a whole table of players at some local bar because the regulars there went all in because they were willing to put money on the idea that Im an idiot. I also like to pretend like I don't know the rules a lot. I am the type of person to where if someone assumes the wrong things about me, I will just get annoyed and do it even more, act even more dumb. Its especially annoying because my presentation, sales, and public speaking skills are my main talents in life, so I think certain people are overly idiotic for thinking just because I am quiet and continuously have the relaxed look on my face at certain times, that I am a certain type of way.

I realize most profits are made in the long run but there are two ways I came up with that might be beneficial gimmicks I can do for awhile right off the bat:

1) In the first few hands, folding a few, then going in on a good hand, but having a look on my face like the hand is "better than I think it is" and them not respecting my bets, taking a chance I'm a noob and me exploiting that.

2) Making a few "mistakes" like betting a chunck of change on ATC and having people call me and seeing that. Seeming desperate and impatient, and doing this 2, 3, 4, 5, hands in a row to where people are certain I just raise to raise. Then I win a hand. Then after winning that hand, hopefully I get another good hand back to back. And they think I am just confidence betting. So I bet big after I win and have a good hand a 2nd time, and people bet big now thinking Im just faux-confident.

I am willing to engage in the most bold acting maneuvers possible if it gives me a heavy advantage.

Where are some places that talk about this level of controlled chaos? It seems like an unlimited potential for advantages and reproducable mind games. Maybe playing in shorter bursts and standing up a lot, moving to new tables more often for tactical reasons such as this. Maybe finding that the win rate is much more consistent if I only play big in times where I have established myself as a certain character that greatly stems the tide of information towards my interests. And once i am "figured out" and am back to playing regular odds poker like everyone else to just stand up and reset and re-start the dramatic arch all over again?
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03-11-2014 , 09:10 AM
1. Act like a spewy drunk. (It's fun)
2. Play like a TAG/nit.
3. ???
4. Profit.
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03-11-2014 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Billly
Took down avi --too many brahs gettin mad jelly, some were mirin, but would rather be able to talk about advice without distractions.
Thanks brah, it looked like you were more on dat dere phaggy time given the avi, than you actually lifted.

Therefore, try to act flamboyant while at poker table, so fish thinks you're just a crazy homer, while you check raise them for their social security cheques.

Gonna make it bro. Trust me, gonna make it.
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03-11-2014 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dufusbrain
1. Act like a spewy drunk. (It's fun)
2. Play like a TAG/nit.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Well Im trying to figure out like a go-to set of stories to tell.

Usually Ive been starting off being super aggressive from the get go. Maybe win or lose the hand but make it feel like I am loose. If everyone got paranoid they folded and I won.

Then after that I get a good hand still being aggressive and everyone calls me and hopefully my hand wins and its a decent sized win.

Then right after weather I get a good card or not I try to be aggressive some more and hopefully lose.

This chain of events generally gives me that LAG vibe for a long while while I continue to play more and more tight. People generally keep coming in, even raising me to try to figure me out. But Im only playing the most premium of premium hands.

Its not until many wins later that they start to fear my bets.

I haven't really gotten deeper than that.

I feel like I could be doing more. Id like to be able to have it instinctual. Something I can do over and over again especially in the early rounds when I first sit at a table that helps me get off to a great start every time and set just the most beneficial tone possible for myself.
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03-12-2014 , 01:39 AM
1. Practice on Zynga and in bar tournaments.
2. Build a roll
3. GTL
4. Crush 5/10 for all da monies
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03-12-2014 , 08:15 AM
Based on how you describe yourself, I think I may have actually played with you once. Were you playing at the Borgota in early October?
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03-12-2014 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Freewill1978
Based on how you describe yourself, I think I may have actually played with you once. Were you playing at the Borgota in early October?
Yeah that was me. I remember you too actually.

Nice run you had brah.
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03-12-2014 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Billly
Yeah that was me. I remember you too actually.

Nice run you had brah.
How would you know which one I was? Just curious.
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03-12-2014 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Freewill1978
How would you know which one I was? Just curious.
Vernon right?
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03-12-2014 , 04:50 PM
No, Rob. I don't think we actually introduced ourselves, we were on opposite sides of the table, but I remember you. We may have played a few pots together. I did fairly well during my week playing there, but that session was not one of my better ones if I remember right.
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03-12-2014 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Freewill1978
No, Rob. I don't think we actually introduced ourselves, we were on opposite sides of the table, but I remember you. We may have played a few pots together. I did fairly well during my week playing there, but that session was not one of my better ones if I remember right.
Yeah you should have left even earlier.

First rule of poker is to leave the table if there are players better than you.
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03-12-2014 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Freewill1978
No, Rob. I don't think we actually introduced ourselves, we were on opposite sides of the table, but I remember you. We may have played a few pots together. I did fairly well during my week playing there, but that session was not one of my better ones if I remember right.
So confirmed OP is not a troll???

Subscribing.
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03-12-2014 , 09:50 PM
Lol. I don't recall you being the reason I didn't have a successful session.
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03-12-2014 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Freewill1978
Lol. I don't recall you being the reason I didn't have a successful session.
You were spending too much time and effort mirin him you couldn't concentrate on the game.
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