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09-05-2009 , 08:14 PM
I am depositing $30 in my FTP BR I went crazy yesterday and had a run of bad luck. I now have 1.50 now and I want to add $30 as I already have 5.20 in RB (so far) coming next week and I qualified for the first week of the double take on FTP. (slight Brag sorry)

So my question is how do 2NL and 5NL players deal with Nitting it up and actually making money at those levels without going crazy and how can I nit it up with my BR. I have a bad habit of playing loose online.

Any suggestions. would be welcome.
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09-05-2009 , 08:22 PM
play top ten premium hands ONLY, if you miss the flop dont bet for value, if you hit tp / tk are any good hand bet all 3 streets
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09-05-2009 , 08:25 PM
Play as many tables as you possibly can. I played 24+ tables on Cake to deal with the boredom at NL4 full ring. I didn't learn anything as a poker player, but it's trivial to nit it up and win some cheeseburgers if you just sit dow nat every full ring table your computer can handle without slowing down.

Didn't even need a HUD, just limp/call every 22+/QJ+ that isn't JJ+/AK and bet half pot every street if you hit top pair or better while folding if you ever get raised and you don't have the nuts. Don't even think about your opponents range. This is full ring and you're playing 2nl. There will be a better spot to play mindless poker, so go ahead and wait for it while folding if someone pressures you even slightly postflop.
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09-05-2009 , 08:44 PM
Will playing like this give me bad habits? I am not new to poker I am just trying to build my BR and not have to deposit again and with my low BR I wont be able to play my regular game and I don't want this to ruin my game when I play for higher stakes live.

Thanks for the responses.
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09-05-2009 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nuisance
Will playing like this give me bad habits? I am not new to poker I am just trying to build my BR and not have to deposit again and with my low BR I wont be able to play my regular game and I don't want this to ruin my game when I play for higher stakes live.

Thanks for the responses.
Well, if you play 1/2 live on a regular basis then what's the big deal if you deposit $200 so you are rolled right away for 10NL. I know you have a day job, so $200 shouldn't be a problem, right?
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09-05-2009 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nuisance
Will playing like this give me bad habits? I am not new to poker...
I wouldn't think so. If you know the game you probably know that this isn't optimal, and not to bring this technique to your regular game.
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09-05-2009 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nuisance
Will playing like this give me bad habits? I am not new to poker I am just trying to build my BR and not have to deposit again and with my low BR I wont be able to play my regular game and I don't want this to ruin my game when I play for higher stakes live.

Thanks for the responses.
Yes it will build terrible habits.

Many newbies seem to view poker as a race, while infact, as cliche as it sounds, it is a marathon.

Unfortunately your bankroll isn't really enough to play with - however I personally started out with 4 dollars.

Know what? Putting in 100k hands at 2nl SUCKS BALLS. However I personally believe it is a rite of passage. I will never have to deposit again, because I know I am good enough to at least always beat 2nl.

Just keep playing and grinding and working on your A game. And for the love of god, PLEASE take this advice, play 4 tables MAX when you are learning.

YES it will be boring. YES it will suck for a while. But when you get up higher in the limits you will thank yourself for being damn good at 4 tables.
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09-05-2009 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by QuickLearner
I wouldn't think so. If you know the game you probably know that this isn't optimal, and not to bring this technique to your regular game.
It will HUGELY stunt your growth as a player.
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09-05-2009 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by breezh4x
It will HUGELY stunt your growth as a player.
This I agree with. He asked whether it would teach him bad habits and identified himself as someone who isn't new to poker. My point was that as long as he understood that it wasn't an optimal strategy he probably wouldn't ingrain any new, bad habits.

If he overstated his knowledge, then yes, you are completely correct. But you can only go by what was said. Would playing this way for a while teach an experienced player (say you, for instance) bad habits? I don't think so.
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09-05-2009 , 10:57 PM
I wouldn't "nit" it up at these levels imo. I know it's counter-intuitive, but the best way to beat loose players is to play loose. If you do in fact have a skill edge, you're only holding your winrate down by being a nit. Plus, you're not learning anything, except patience, which you can learn playing 18/15 as opposed to 9/7. By loose, I don't mean playing badly or treating second pair like it's the nuts as your opponents will. Just play position and take your opponents to value-town.

Just realized that you play 1/2 live. Yeah, you have skill edge over those guys. I think nitting is for players with a patience edge, but no skill edge, so I'd just play solid tag, although you'd be surprise how laggy you can run and still smash 2NL-10NL.
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09-05-2009 , 10:58 PM
What was that in the other thread about not being a troll?

I do believe that you said that you were at a higher skill level than you play. How about you deposit a sufficient amount and play that level, then, instead of constantly depositing $30, as you seem to have been doing for a good couple of months. There's more to being good at poker than playing the cards, it's also about being smart about playing those cards, and that includes all aspects, from bankroll, to tilt control.

Also, how is qualifying for Take Two a brag? You have to get a point on two tables, oh noes.

Last edited by whydowe_fall; 09-05-2009 at 11:04 PM.
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09-06-2009 , 11:14 PM
Well so far I haven't had to add that $30 I woke up today with $1.30 in my BR. I nitted up 1 table of 2NL I now have $8.80. I multi-tabled when I got to $4 so I got my point for the take 2 then went back to 1 table. Its late now and I am getting tired so I am going to see what I can do tomorrow.

I know some of you really don't care what this troll has accomplished. And yes playing 2NL like that is a drain mentally. But I just wanted to let the ppl who gave me advise on how to play like a nit and it has worked "so far".

Thanks.
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09-07-2009 , 01:06 AM
What does nit mean? What does 2 nl mean? (2 dollar no limit)?

Thanks for the clarification.
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09-07-2009 , 01:10 AM
2nl = 0.1/0.2 no limit games
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09-07-2009 , 03:36 AM
playing 2nl will stunt your growth as a poker player/ human being
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09-07-2009 , 04:04 AM
And "nit" means someone who plays super-tight, with very selective starting hands... used to call it a rock, but you know those crazy internet kids!
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09-07-2009 , 04:34 AM
To play 2nl correctly you have to take everything you've ever learned about Poker and ignore it all bar the fundamentals.

It's ABC poker all the way.
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09-07-2009 , 04:52 AM
I'm actually tempted to try, just for giggles (and heartattacks).
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09-07-2009 , 04:57 AM
I did it for 6k hands before thankfully winning enough to move up, but those 6k we're amongst the dullest hands of my life. I feel like i'm a better player for the experience though, working on the basis that if you cant win at that level against that calibre of player then maybe poker isnt for you.
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09-07-2009 , 06:27 AM
i think thil will help you out.
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09-07-2009 , 06:45 AM
If you usually play higher there's really no reason to completely nit it up. Sure, feel free to play tighter in early positions. But if you know how to play against passive fish and can identify them with some confidence do go for 3 streets with your TPGK, cbet good flops and barrel good turns etc, etc.
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09-07-2009 , 06:56 AM
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And "nit" means someone who plays super-tight, with very selective starting hands... used to call it a rock, but you know those crazy internet kids!
It's been Nit since the 80's for sure.
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09-07-2009 , 08:43 AM
Solid way to be a marginal winner/rb grinder, never move up, and get consistently owned by anyone good. Have fun.
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09-07-2009 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by breezh4x
It will HUGELY stunt your growth as a player.
Actually the first step in becoming a good player is to realize that 50% of that hands you think are good to play preflop are actually junk. If you happen to over swing the pendulum to the nitty side that is not all bad.

Now if you are going to just try to learn to 24 table 2nl, versus actually developing your game to rise to 5nl and 10nl, then that is sad.

Seriously, learning to play a little nitty preflop is a solid first step in learning to play nl, as it insures you are taking premium hand to post flop and a better chance of being on the positive side of domination issues.

A solid TAG/Nitty game will serve you well through 25nl.
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