Hey guys, I am new to the forum even though I've played a long time. I've been reading the stuff here for like a week now and I already feel like I'm a better player lol. But I am loving it.

I am mostly a cash game player, altho I play tourneys here and there, and in the live forum I notice a lot of people describe villains by race, gender, age, and ethnicity.

Are there stereotypes that are usually true in poker about stereotypes? Like if somebody mentions that a player is black, does that change how you play against them? I just found that kind of odd.

I do know that in general asians are smart as hell, so maybe that shows that the villain might be very mathematically astute and know what he is doing, but aside from that, are there generalizations, whether it be right or wrong, that are generally made by these descriptions?

Gtfo racist

how did i say a thing that is racist. i made the observation that in the live forum, people describe villains and themselves like: "mid 20s, black" "female, early 30s, white"

i just am asking why they do that. what does race, gender, etc have to do with how that person is perceived?

how is that a bad question. go into the forum yourself, its in every thread

I think you should judge people by their playing style.

Fish
LAG
TAG
Whale, etc...

Age and race aren't always the best stereotypes.

"I do know that in general asians are smart as hell, so maybe that shows that the villain might be very mathematically astute and know what he is doing"

this makes sense to me and i agree...i was just fairly surprised when i noticed that every thread had descriptions of villains race and such and i wondered if it meant anything.

age i kind of think does matter, as there is definitely a differnece in old school play and modern player's style. but i just wondered if people posted that information for a reason, and if it factors in to people's advice.


clearly though, I'm a huge racist right Chris?

Bro, I quoted exactly why you're a racist. If you're too dumb to see why that's a racist statement, then I don't know what to say.

if saying "asians are often smart and good at math" is racist, then the world needs more racism. if someone's first response after meeting me was "oh you're jewish, you much be fantastic with money" i would not at all be mad haha

chill the f out brah, i didnt say anything harmful or offensive even remotely

Jesus you are ****ing stupid.

The question is baiting in itself. So go on, tell us what you think when a black man sits down at the table? It's clear you've already assigned the asian stereotype, so I want to hear your black one.

dude have you been to a casino in your life? ever? take a look around when you are in one...there are a large amount of asians, and they are often playing high limits and often do better than the average joe. what i said is not a racist comment, its a fact. asians often love to play casino games, and they often have a great grasp on the math side of the games. saying that is no differnt than saying the sky is usually blue

and you are incapable of having a conversation without being a dickhole. nice to meet you. hope your poker playing brings you the utmost amount of success

Still waiting for your opinion on black males when they sit down at the table. I guarantee that it isn't as flattering as your asian one.

Positive racism is the exact same thing as negative racism except the connotation isn't malevolent. It is still objectifying an individual for things they have no control over.

That being said, younger guys who don't look very well kept together but have a lot of money typically represent online players. They are usually more aggressive and will bet light. Older guys are usually more conservative and tend to play a lot more straightforward. These are just preconceived notions about the player, you want to make sure you judge them based on their betting lines rather than their appearance.

this is exactly what my question was douche bag. my question was "why do people include black/white/asian or whatever in descriptions" because to me, i have never really even considered that when playing against somebody

amazing how a guy who starts a thread who asks why people mention the race because to me it never mattered is called racist lol

Mother****er, you gave us your opinion on Asian players in the OP, so don't give the "I have never judged any player by their race" talk.

ok you know what GTFO of this thread...i asked an honest harmless question based on something that i saw often in the live no limit forum. is that not what this forum is for? i asked if there are preconceived stereotypes that impact peoples thinking, because if not, why do people say "this player is ____"...if you want to turn this into something else, just leave.

People use those descriptions all the time and it's just about as relevant as when someone uses it in OOT (for example, "I was at the supermarket checkout line and this black lady..." and then goes on with the story and her being black and female has nothing to do with his grievances, but there's an apparent reason why he felt the need to specify race and sex).

So this kind of thinking obviously will spill over into their poker game. The truth is there's a lot of degen Asians and there's a lot of smart Asians... and white and black people. So anyway, when some new face sits at the table you do have to size them up, but it's not race, sex and such because it takes all types.

Things to look at are demeanor and dress/hygiene. Those are a far better barometer than anything else. A guy sits down gently, has manicured fingernails and is dressed nicely as opposed to someone who flips a rack of chips onto its side with only one hand and deracks the 5 stacks without one chip spilling and he's dressed like he needs money. Or a guy that makes a scene while sitting down and covers the entire table in an unrestricted game. Each of these I will play differently until they prove or disprove how they actually play (which doesn't take very long, generally).

your inability to formulate a sentence without a cuss word speaks volumes of your intelligence btw.

hey look at that, a genuine good response. thanks man.

yeah, appearance means a lot. its just that a lot of online players are socially awkward and don't really know how to dress or how to act in social situations, so sometimes you can confuse them with bums lol.

i actually sometimes think that a super rich looking guy at a 1/2 game or even a 2/5 may be more likely to fish because they really dont care if they lose the money since a few hundo is small to them

For the last GOD DAMN TIME, NOBODY OWNS A ****ing THREAD!

I'd much rather threads like this didn't exist. They may have a place in the politics/unchained section, but we shouldn't allow a breeding place for racists to foster their ignorant opinions.

Positive racism is still racism you ignoramus, and I'm still waiting for your view on black players.

And you thinking positive racism is a good thing and that, in your own words, "the world needs more of it" speakes volumes about your intelligence you ****ing ******ed ****.

There is no positive racism. I'd like to be thought of as being smart, but as a default just due to my race, well, that can be a negative for someone in school, work and social situations who isn't smart.

That's my exact point. What's mind boggling to me is that OP still thinks his racism is perfectly reasonable as long as he's saying nice things. Isn't that sweet.

OP instead of getting mad at me your energy would be better spent knocking down your core beliefs and then building them back up from scratch.

Black people like to bluff a lot