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03-07-2011 , 04:50 AM

NLplayer

adept

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 992

Why is it +EV to have a loose full stack on my right in 100 deep SH NLHE?

I barely ever call pre, its usually 3bet or fold. I dont really understand how I end up with their stack?

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03-07-2011 , 05:10 AM

zaiga000

adept

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 854

He might call your 3bet when you have Aces, or 4bet you, or whatever. Also, you should have a calling range against him, depending on how he plays. You certainly should call with pocket pairs to set mine if he stacks off lightly postflop.

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03-07-2011 , 11:22 AM

DiamondDog

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,474

Who would you rather have position on:

(a) a loose, deep stack
(b) a tight shorty?

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03-07-2011 , 11:56 AM

Koenigelvis

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 24

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Originally Posted by DiamondDog

Who would you rather have position on:

(a) a loose, deep stack
(b) a tight shorty?

Seems like a tough one, but I might go with A.

Let them blow their stack all over me

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03-08-2011 , 08:01 AM

BeerMonster

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 460

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Originally Posted by NLplayer

Why is it +EV to have a loose full stack on my right in 100 deep SH NLHE?

I barely ever call pre, its usually 3bet or fold. I dont really understand how I end up with their stack?

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Having the player on your right means you're playing most pots in position against him. If he's opening too many pots it should be profitable to balance calling and 3beting a lot of hands against him.

Because he's loose you have the option to play a lot of pots against him.

As far as the later question re tight shortstack and deep loose player, it's obviously the loose player. The short player is not going to play a lot of hands against you, will fold to a lot of your 3bets or shove with premiums and has very little money for you to actually win from him.

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03-08-2011 , 08:42 AM

nismo9

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,548

Loose stack = X
You = Y

X raises to 4BB (because thats what LAGs do), Y reraises to 15BB with A-A, X reraises all-in (because thats what LAGs do), Y calls and takes X's stack 80% of the time.

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