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Show hero stats from V PoV? Show hero stats from V PoV?

07-24-2014 , 03:37 PM
Is there a way to show hero stats from V's PoV with holdemmanager for example with pop up? Like it filters only the hands hero has played with the exact villain in the table that can be toggled by clicking V hud to show a pop up?

This would greatly help abusing my table image against specific villains.
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07-24-2014 , 04:37 PM
kind of pointless as you're assuming that villain is paying attention to what you're doing, and it shouldn't vary significantly between villains regardless
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07-25-2014 , 01:04 AM
Well at NL25 I don't really think people are paying 100% attention to the hands they aren't in. Also, as people are always talking about table image, how the **** isn't the table image different for someone who has 100 hands on me or someone who has 5k hands with me.
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07-25-2014 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by doctor877
Well at NL25 I don't really think people are paying 100% attention to the hands they aren't in. Also, as people are always talking about table image, how the **** isn't the table image different for someone who has 100 hands on me or someone who has 5k hands with me.
Think about how it is ever going to have a significant change over a large sample size. Say villain has got 1k hands on you and you typically play 25/20 - if you've tagged villain as not being a drooler, is he ever going to see anything significantly different than you folding pre 750 times? And if you do play a hand when he's at the table, how many times will you be doing something hugely out of line in normal play? And how many hands will you actually do something specifically against that villain?

You're just trying to take higher level concepts that have more relevance live and applying it to low level online games where villain either isn't tracking, won't notice any difference if he is, and won't appreciate subtle plays designed to exploit him in the rare occasions that they do happen as it's ****ing NL25
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07-25-2014 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Think about how it is ever going to have a significant change over a large sample size. Say villain has got 1k hands on you and you typically play 25/20 - if you've tagged villain as not being a drooler, is he ever going to see anything significantly different than you folding pre 750 times? And if you do play a hand when he's at the table, how many times will you be doing something hugely out of line in normal play? And how many hands will you actually do something specifically against that villain?

You're just trying to take higher level concepts that have more relevance live and applying it to low level online games where villain either isn't tracking, won't notice any difference if he is, and won't appreciate subtle plays designed to exploit him in the rare occasions that they do happen as it's ****ing NL25

Yeah your right that it would probably show very marginal results in a large sample size, however poker is nowdays about the marginal advantages, isn't it?

And in case of playing in a big player pool at pokerstars, it would be more useful compared to some smaller site, wouldn't it?

But anyway, I think this isn't possible to do with HEM, so whatevss.
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07-25-2014 , 06:03 AM
well let me rephrase the question - assuming the villain is paying attention, has a big enough sample size on you for it to be significant, and you know he's seeing you as, say, 30/25 rather than 25/20, exactly what alterations would you make that are going to make any sort of significant difference to your winrate?
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07-25-2014 , 06:21 AM
None.

The trick is to use this against villains who has a medium size sample of my plays, because I think that in NL25 and lower, loads of people who are using HUD's are relaying on stats too much even the sample is like 100-500 hands. These would be the villains I would exploit the pov stats against, because the stats of a 100-500 sample can have pretty HUGE variance.
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07-25-2014 , 08:22 AM
NoteCaddy Premium has a way to do this. I can't post links in this forum/thread but it is on their blog. google search 'Add your stats as seen by your opponents to your HM2 hud' and you should be able to find it.
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07-26-2014 , 02:48 AM
I skimmed this thread and I disagree with what seems to be the arrived at opinion.


I think what is asked for in the OP would be extremely useful. Sure, paying attention, noticing the "game flow" at a particular table (people play differently depending on the makeup of the table ... or at least they should) and recalling the history between you and villain in different spots and perhaps having notes would be more helpful, but I think that what the OP'er suggests would be quite helpful also vs. some of the regs you played against the most. If I was running a HUD, I think I would want this option somewhere somehow if I could have it.



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I assume it may be difficult though because there is more than 1 villain at the table. I don't know.
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07-26-2014 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I skimmed this thread and I disagree with what seems to be the arrived at opinion.


I think what is asked for in the OP would be extremely useful. Sure, paying attention, noticing the "game flow" at a particular table (people play differently depending on the makeup of the table ... or at least they should) and recalling the history between you and villain in different spots and perhaps having notes would be more helpful, but I think that what the OP'er suggests would be quite helpful also vs. some of the regs you played against the most. If I was running a HUD, I think I would want this option somewhere somehow if I could have it.



EDIT:

I assume it may be difficult though because there is more than 1 villain at the table. I don't know.
Honestly, this wouldn't be very hard to make as a popup for every V if you had acces to HEM sourcecode.
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