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10-09-2016 , 02:58 PM

poker2016

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Should rake be 1 of the reason we should play less hand?

the higher the rake the less hand we want to play?

Live cash 2/5 Rake: 10% of the pot Max $10

the more hand we play, the more rake take from me.

So, should rake be 1 of the reason we should play less hand?

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10-09-2016 , 05:17 PM

browni3141

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It is true that the higher the rake is the less hands you can profitably play. Hands which are marginally profitable will become slightly unprofitable with an increase in rake.

It's impossible to actually know which hands this affects, though.

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10-09-2016 , 05:49 PM

ArtyMcFly

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The short answer is YES, you should play tighter pre-flop in games with high rake. Just how tight really depends on the dynamics of the game, how much of a skill edge you have etc.

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10-09-2016 , 10:09 PM

Ray Zee

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to have an edge in a hand you have to have someone giving back the rake from their own ev. so you have to add that amount taken from the pot and see if it is being lost during the hands on average you play in.

example. rake is 10 dollars. someone has to have zero chance of winning and put ten dollars in, or someone has to put 100 dollars in and have 10

% the worst of it. or something in between. that just gets you even. then you have to find someone else to have minus ev against you.

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10-10-2016 , 04:43 AM

tiltninja

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it's definitely a factor in live games where the rake is higher than online but the cap is relatively lower. it's not worth trading small pots so it's best to play tight. the fact that nobody folds is more of a reason to play tight

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10-10-2016 , 09:14 AM

poker2016

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Originally Posted by tiltninja

it's definitely a factor in live games where the rake is higher than online but the cap is relatively lower.

I don't see the cap is lower in live game?

The game I am playing 2/5 rake 10% of the pot Max Cap $10.

If the Cap is higher, we should play even less hand? because they take more rake with higher cap.

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10-10-2016 , 10:37 AM

tiltninja

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yea so the cap is only 2bb, which is really good. you want to get into pots where the rake is capped to minimise its effects on wr

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