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07-23-2017 , 12:51 PM
Hi,

Playing turbo tournament. Stacks around 20K. Blinds 100/200. Dealt 2h-2d in middle position. I limp behind initial limper. No one raises preflop.

Flop: 2c-9c-5d.

Villain 1 in early position bets 200. I raise to 600. Villain 2 calls. Villain 1 calls.

Turn: 6c.

Checked to me. I bet 1,100. Both call.

River: 6s.

Checked to me by villain 1. I bet 2,200. Villain 2 raises to 6,200. Villain 1 calls. My action? Villain 1 is unknown, but early play led me to think he was weak/passive fish. Villain 2 is solid player and he knows me to be solid as well.

Spoiler: I call with my bottom boat and villain shows 6d-6h for runner runner quads. I called because there was a flush out there that I beat, and I did not go all in over the top because there were bigger boats that beat me. I did not consider the possibility of quad sixes in this scenario. Of note, villain 1 showed down an overpair (queens). Maybe I should have raised bigger on the flop to force sixes to fold?
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07-23-2017 , 01:07 PM
don't post results

play seems fine until the river, although i'd repop the flop and bet the turn larger each time, say make it 800 then 1.5-2k on the turn. river is kind of vomit, while the raiser might be getting funky, it's hard to see villain 2 flatting with anything other than a boat at the minimum, and we have the nut low boat, that we'd still have 60 bigs and we're getting 5/1 doesn't really make much difference
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07-23-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Maybe I should have raised bigger on the flop to force sixes to fold?
would you want the sixes to fold?

as for hand, you can't raise and you can't fold, so that leaves us with one option. Folding fullhouses vs randoms is not an option.
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07-23-2017 , 03:34 PM
I don't think you can fold here esp. with the flush. They could have the Axc and a 6x combo. Pretty wide ranges with no huge PF action. Its just one of those unlucky spots
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07-23-2017 , 04:15 PM
tutejszy, oilspill - what hands are you putting any money into the pot with on the river when you've checked and are facing a bet and a raise?
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07-23-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
tutejszy, oilspill - what hands are you putting any money into the pot with on the river when you've checked and are facing a bet and a raise?
What matters is with what hands these players would put money in the pot with. Since one of the muppet had a naked overpair, how would a flush look to one of these guys?
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07-23-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
What matters is with what hands these players would put money in the pot with. Since one of the muppet had a naked overpair, how would a flush look to one of these guys?
And if OP hadn't posted results, we wouldn't have this sort of results oriented comment
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07-23-2017 , 05:35 PM
It's even worse because to me it isn't clear what the positions are or which of them was the limper.

If we ignore the junk that one muppet showed down I still don't think we should only look at what we would do in their spot. The hand starts out with a limp so right away I have no idea how I would play the hand. In some spots fish do weird things.
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07-24-2017 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
tutejszy, oilspill - what hands are you putting any money into the pot with on the river when you've checked and are facing a bet and a raise?
I don't see how that's relevant

again, don't make huge exploits like folding fullhouses vs unknowns. It seems cool to make those folds (esp when you turn out to be right), but they are just losing money because of how randomly bad players are playing.
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