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06-29-2021 , 02:32 PM
So hey, as tittle goes, I have bunch of dumb questions and this is quite nice place to get some answers, i have been playing on and off online for 2 years, with uni and stuff time is limited but i love game to the bone, played mtts, binked 11bb on stars for 3k half spent for life stuff half left for poker,transitioned to cash and loving it since(Charlie Carrel and his challenge kinda introduced cash games to me) Im playing microstakes zoom on PS and trying to get better.
Btw sorry for my english, degen eastern european style.
So my first hand i want to post will be written down by me from table i observed on stars 1/2 zoom cuz my tracker doesn't allow me to import them,PS policy i guess.
1/2 zoom btw CO had 720$ SB had 249$ stack
CO opens 4$
SB 3bet to 18$
CO calls / POT 38$
Flop - 9cJd6h action check/check
Turn - 5c
SB - bets 30$
CO calls / POT 95.25$
River - 2d
SB bets 71$
CO shoves for 150$ more / POT - 533.47$
SB - show QdJd
CO - show 4c3c
So i will just go with my broken(hoping to get fixed) microstake analysis and then leave with some dumb questions. SB standard 3bet i think, CO in my stakes (5-10z) i would snap fold it and reason being is rake and nits,but here guess its ok? So flop from CO goes x which i think is ok? Even with your sets and overpairs oop i would check here to trap possibly. CO goes check which i think is quite bad with his hand? Because he has some equity to start bluffing with his hand since i think his hand is garbage . Turn CO bets i think 80% pot and i have no clue how good or bad this is? Since he is blocking KQ/QT/Q8 isn't he making all the worse hands to fold and all the good hands to call/raise with his bet?CO calls , does he have 33% there? or thats not how it works?
River SB bets 75%, which again i have no clue what is calling there, sticky TT/88? and CO shoves and i think it should be snapfold from SB atleast in my stakes cuz noone ever ever ever bluffs like that .
So my dumb questions not about hand - How do I adjust to better ranges not blindly follow those available for 6max cash,If I have 20vpip and i open CO and BU has 25vpip in those 5% i will have mathematical advantage? Second, I personally follow 3b or fold but limps are just meta in my games, do I open bigger 3x/4x to prevent my AA to have 50% equity 5way?
How do I approach 3bets IP? What should i look for in my calling range except position? Sorry for being chaotic, that's it for now, be gentle plx
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06-30-2021 , 12:55 AM
Focus on one question. It's impossible to respond to all this without spamming pages of text.

FWIW, I like the checkback with 43cc, just give up or improve to a playable draw on the turn.

I fold QJ against the river shove.
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06-30-2021 , 09:15 AM
Yeah i become like this about things i enjoy, sorry, thanks for your answer.
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06-30-2021 , 10:19 AM
I can't comment on the specific question you asked, as I mostly play MTT's. But a few tips on getting better responses on questions.

1. Confine each post to a single question.
2. Have that question clearly reflected in your title.
3. Use formatting (paragraphs, line breaks, punctuation) to make your posts more readable.
4. Present the hand, but do not post the results, and present up to the critical decision point. Explain your thought processes along the way, and then explain the part you are uncertain about, but don't indicate what action you took or how it turned out.

There is a tendency for people to do a stream of consciousness thought dump when they are thinking about a hand, because they have not yet learned how to isolate poker into a series of discrete, individual decisions. It is really had to have a good thread with those kinds of posts, as the discussion tends to go in ten different directions, and no one is really clear about what topic is being discussed.
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06-30-2021 , 10:37 AM
SB is going for really thin value, here. Bluntly, I don't know what hand - that he beats, does he expect to get a call from on the river after CO called turn. A9, TT? 88? 77? But CO would have bet that on the flop because there's a ton of cards he doesn't want to see on the turn.

Starting a bluff with 43c on this flop is dicey. Currently CO is holding a big bag of nothing with no blockers and only some backdoor draws (and even if the flush draw comes in he isn't guaranteed a win - much less get paid off). If he starts bluffing he's got to commit to at least bluff also on turn. The flop is low enough that SB is likely (with a 3bet pre) to be holding overcards or a pair. He will fold neither of those to one flop bet on a dry-ish board.

Turn: CO bets to protect against flush draws seeing a cheap river card or some hand that hit middle/low pair from improving to 2pair or better (because if it doesn't improve it's not going to pay off a bet on the river, anyhow - so taking it down now is OK)

River after facing a shove is a fold for me.

Last edited by antialias; 06-30-2021 at 10:42 AM.
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06-30-2021 , 12:32 PM
That should be "SB bets to protect..."
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06-30-2021 , 01:26 PM
most people play like **** at 200nl, so i wouldn't bother analysing their hands
This hand was played terribly
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07-01-2021 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
I can't comment on the specific question you asked, as I mostly play MTT's. But a few tips on getting better responses on questions.

1. Confine each post to a single question.
2. Have that question clearly reflected in your title.
3. Use formatting (paragraphs, line breaks, punctuation) to make your posts more readable.
4. Present the hand, but do not post the results, and present up to the critical decision point. Explain your thought processes along the way, and then explain the part you are uncertain about, but don't indicate what action you took or how it turned out.

There is a tendency for people to do a stream of consciousness thought dump when they are thinking about a hand, because they have not yet learned how to isolate poker into a series of discrete, individual decisions. It is really had to have a good thread with those kinds of posts, as the discussion tends to go in ten different directions, and no one is really clear about what topic is being discussed.
I appreciate this, i'll come back to this as my guideline next time
Also, i'm such a noob that i don't know how can i quote to antialias in same reply, talk about weak preflop hehe.
About the hand, i agree about everything with my microstake brain If i were SB, i wouldn't even think about it like that on river, i would see a deuce which would be like a brick card which doesn't mean anything and blindly bet and that's such a big leak i think i just realized I had only from one posted hand from random 200z pool,i really should start thinking about all streets i play with my bets and checks
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