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Running deep in an MTT. Running deep in an MTT.

02-12-2009 , 07:55 AM
First of all please don't hurl insults etc at me. Managed to finish 2nd in a donkament with a small field but i realised some key points to running deep.

Things Within Your Control (Skill Factor)
-Not to make mistakes winding up losing big pots.
-Don't try any fancy play as every chip counts.
-Getting it in with the best hand.

Things Not Within Your Control (Luck Factor)
-Having to win every race you enter.
-Sucking out when you are behind.

Basically it is easier said than done with the few points above.
But i was wondering if there was anything else that attributes to one's success in a MTT be it on a site with softer players or really tough ones.
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02-12-2009 , 08:31 AM
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-Getting it in with the best hand.
This is not wholly within your control, actually.

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-Don't try any fancy play as every chip counts.
No, don't try any bad and unprofitable plays. If you always play ABC, you will have no edge vs other players who aren't idiots.
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02-12-2009 , 08:55 AM
For the first point , i suppose so. I guess it should be rephrased as " Try to ensure that when you go all in , you have the best hand most of the time. " and its actually linked to winning every race and outdrawing others when you are behind actually.

Well i consider stupid bluffs etc under fancy play. I am not saying avoid fancy play and only ABC but i regard fancy play as something that occurs when one is bored and tries to make a play or rather try something that is apparently as good as donating chips.
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02-12-2009 , 09:14 AM
Then those are bad/unprofitable plays. You have to adjust and start adding curve balls if you want to beat a player with the same range as you. Let's say everyone else will only go all in preflop with QQ+ AK+

There are then 2 possible adjustments; widen 3bet (or 4bet in a cash game/deep MTT) range, but tighten call shove range.

Obviously ranges vary from opponent to opponent history and stack size, but the idea is the same.
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02-12-2009 , 09:52 AM
Actually what i mentioned about is just a rough idea of what are some of things it takes to really run deep in a tournament.
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02-12-2009 , 03:42 PM
Another important point for me is to rarely have to survive a pot where I'm all in or nearly all in.

The simple matter is that the more often you put your tournament at risk, it will eventually end.

The theory from Greenstein's book (99% sure this is where it comes from) is that once your opponents' EV for those hands adds up to 1.0, you are essentially on a freeroll as one of them should have hit.

It isn't a matter of being afraid to play a big pot, it's knowing when to and not to play one. I see too many players go to the big play one time too many, and it costs otherwise very good players quite a bit of money.
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