Hey guys,

a couple of hands I just played and don't really know if my River folds were the best play:

Hand #1: Villain is a 28/22 over 120 hands and 3bets button opens at 33%. He never folded to a 4bet out of 6 times. He cbets at 77%.





Hand #2:: Villain is 21/18 over 275 hands with a 3bet percentage of 11 and a fold to 4bet of 75%.



Thoughts?

H1 - don't be fooled by stats. 120 hands is not enough to make too many assumptions about 3betting button opens. Pre seems fine given he's not a NIT. Not sure why you raise flop?

H2 - Bet flop ldo

Why did you fold h2?

H1- Thought he would shove all his premium overpairs/ sets and fold all weaker hands. The call kind of caught me off guard.

H2- yeah think thats a bet too. Not happy with my play there. Folded because I gave him a range of QQ+ and maybe AK.

The first hand you only beat a bluff, and I don't know the villain enough to necessarily think he is bluffing. He called a good sized turn bet, so he should have something. About all you beat is a busted straight draw. The amount is consistent with someone who hit on the river and wants to get paid off.

The second hand, I can't imagine why you didn't bet the flop. And there is no way I'm folding that river. It is unlikely he has a 4, unlikely he has KK and unlikely he has QQ or 55. Certainly he can have any one of those. But you beat everything else. He can have AK, AQ, KQ, any other pair that wants to stab at it. You are getting almost 3-1 odds on a call.

Even if he is very nitty you have to call, and the way you described him you are almost certainly ahead. And if he somehow got lucky and cracked your aces, so be it.

imo, Hand 1 seems like a fine fold.. bunch of hands he could have, that beat u in that situation..
Hand 2 i wudv called the R without much difficulty.. he cudv easily had a KQ there but u beat that. Also.. considering the size of the pot after the T, calling there shudv been pretty easy..and as mentioned above, u shudv bet the Flop

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HAND ONE:

I do not understand your flop raise. Just call his flop bet. As played, yea, river fold seems obvious.


HAND TWO:

I'm sure I nearly always bet the flop. As played, a river fold is very bad. The only question on the river is whether you call or shove.

Hand 1: All good except flop raise.

Hand 2: I bet the flop and jam the turn. River fold is not good IMO.

Not really a question here, because SB is all-in.

As said, in hand 1 don't raise flop.

Hand 2, bet the flop, bet the turn, jam the river, ez game.

Yep. The hand history didn't say that and obviously I didn't add up all the bets. So, yea, shove is not an option then, so in that case call is the only viable option.

Playing only the river, this are my choises;

Hand 1, I think, folding is not bad there.

Hand 2, You def have to call the river there

Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.

I tend to overvalue the strength of villains range in big pots where I hold premiums, as in Hand #2. Definetly one area where I need to improve.

Not that I disagree, but what is your reasoning?

We only get value from 8x and get called by every hand that beats us.