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04-20-2016 , 06:24 PM
Is there a way to count how much FE do I need when double barreling?

I know that when I am cbetting the flop, for example in half potting in a 3bet pot I can count the FE needed by doing this:

EQ=1/[(WIN/RISK)+1]
EQ=1/2+1
EQ=0.333333333333333

I need to be good 1/3rd of the time.

When I am running a double barrel bluff, is there a way to count the total FE needed on both streets?

Lets say I am half potting both the flop and the turn and the villain is folding 20% on the flop and 40% on the turn. Is that enough? I tried to run this in CREV but it always requires to run the entire sequence so it is very difficult to find out there.

Thanks.
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04-20-2016 , 10:41 PM
One street at a time big fella.

The second street you'll be making gains even if we assume hero has zero hand equity.

Turn pot is 100 the bet into it is 50 sooo...

We go .4 (fold equity)x100 (aka pot before the bet) =40 then-50(ev)x.6( the times he calls)=-30

Subtract the two answers 40-30= 10 chips ev

Conclusion: a half pot bet with no hand equity will deliver +10 ev if there is 40% fold equity

Sorry if that didn't exactly address your question but I hope it at least partly answers it.

Last edited by Cfoye; 04-20-2016 at 10:56 PM.
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04-20-2016 , 10:46 PM
I think your question is gonna put you in a precarious position as even if he folded 4 of 10 times he might not be folding this time due to a stronger hand.
I mean watching some one act 10 times isnt really what i would call a very reliable patteren
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04-21-2016 , 12:44 AM
Say pot = 100 and 1/2 pot bets. Using your assumptions, villain folds F on flop and 2F on turn, F<0.5, and you have air. (River??)

EV = F*100 + (1-F)*(2F*150-(1-2F)*150)

Setting EV to 0 the required fold equity is 20.7% on the first bluff and 41.3% for the 2nd barrel.

For a more general equation, let P =initial pot, F = initial fold equity, kF = 2nd barrel fold equity and b= fraction of current pot that is bet:

EV= F*P+(1-F)*(kF*(P+bP)-(1-kF)*(bP+b*(P+2bP))

The way I would solve this for one of the variables is to use named variables in Excel and then apply the Goal Seek function.
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