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03-05-2019 , 10:04 AM
The preflop play wasn't the best. P6 was a bit of a calling station, also squeezed a couple times before this hand, and overall a mediocre player . P4 was a nit. I had a good feeling I was ahead, and I didn't want to take this to streets.

On the flop, nothing really got there, I didn't want to let him get a free card in case he had a two spades.

Do I ever fold on this flop? What could I have done if the flop was super wet like 8 9 T for example do I ever not checkback on a wet flop? What if I do check back on a wet flop, and we get to the turn ? Is bluffing to take it away ever right, I can't imagine i have much fold equity when i give him 3 to 1 with half his stack in the middle?


Stacks
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 3: Player3 ( $2.08 USD )
Seat 6: Player6 ( $5.90 USD )
Seat 2: Player2 ( $7.34 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $5 USD )
Seat 1: Player1 ( $5.64 USD )
Seat 4: Player4 ( $5.62 USD )

Player6 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.05 USD].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 4♠ A♣ J♦ A♥ ]

Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 raises [$0.17 USD]
Hero calls [$0.17 USD]
Player6 raises [$0.63 USD]
Player1 folds
Player4 calls [$0.48 USD]
Hero raises [$2.48 USD]
Player6 calls [$2 USD]
Player4 folds

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3♠, 9♠, 6♦ ]
Player6 checks
Hero is all-In [$2.35 USD]
Player6 calls [$2.35 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2♥ ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8♠ ]

Spoiler:

Player6 shows [ Q♣, K♣, 5♣, K♦ ]a pair of Kings.
Hero shows [ 4♠, A♣, J♦, A♥ ]a pair of Aces.
Hero wins $10.17 USD from the main pot with a pair of Aces.

Equity
Preflop 69%
Flop 88%
Turn 95%
River 100%



Last edited by Lyamani; 03-05-2019 at 10:12 AM.
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03-05-2019 , 11:06 AM
Convert your hand. Once you flat and then 4b half your stack pre you can't pass
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03-05-2019 , 11:12 AM
There’s ~40% pot left on the flop. Hard to imagine not having significantly over 20% equity against his stack-off range if he plays bad kings that way.
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03-05-2019 , 11:52 AM
What's your question? Do I ever fold this Flop? You never had the option to fold .. it was checked to you.

Something 'always' gets there in PLO on the Flop ... wraps, sets and flush draws are the most common on this Flop. Are they 'likely'? ... probably not.

As indicated you aren't deep enough to fold to a Turn shove and might as well get it all in here on the Flop to charge what you can charge for your opponent to draw to.

The real question is how would you hand this if you both had $15 behind? The answer is 'POT'!! GL

PS ... on a monotone Flop AP (as played) I don't think we want to get in the habit of folding getting 3 to 1 on a call. BUT, calling stations typically aren't aggressive without nutty types of hands, so it's a consideration.

If you were deeper on a monotone Flop and got potted into by a CS, then I do think 'can' fold without being too exploited. GL
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03-05-2019 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
What's your question? Do I ever fold this Flop? You never had the option to fold .. it was checked to you.

Something 'always' gets there in PLO on the Flop ... wraps, sets and flush draws are the most common on this Flop. Are they 'likely'? ... probably not.

As indicated you aren't deep enough to fold to a Turn shove and might as well get it all in here on the Flop to charge what you can charge for your opponent to draw to.

The real question is how would you hand this if you both had $15 behind? The answer is 'POT'!! GL

PS ... on a monotone Flop AP (as played) I don't think we want to get in the habit of folding getting 3 to 1 on a call. BUT, calling stations typically aren't aggressive without nutty types of hands, so it's a consideration.

If you were deeper on a monotone Flop and got potted into by a CS, then I do think 'can' fold without being too exploited. GL
Perfect answer, I try to avoid being too deep for this reason. I normally shortstack and quit the table once I get a 200BB stack. I'll keep this in mind next time. I guess the hand was automatic and there was nothing I could've done otherwise with this particular hand, flop and stacksizes. Atleast he didn't show A99A.
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03-05-2019 , 02:21 PM
I don't understand, didn't you flop overpair with nut flush draw? You have an amazing hand. What's your question?
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03-05-2019 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rin-Inky
I don't understand, didn't you flop overpair with nut flush draw? You have an amazing hand. What's your question?
OP only has 4 .. essentially naked Aces

45, 57, 7T and the flush all get there, but other than some sort of 'convenient' flush these holdings really shouldn't be expected very often based on the PF action unless they are danglers with large PP or part of a stubborn PF wrap lover. Danglers are part of PLO runouts ... get used to them but they're no reason to 'not' bet here. GL
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03-05-2019 , 03:46 PM
Oh I see. The suit colors are confusing, being all black.

Still get it in though, easily.
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