I've got 35 buy-ins for 10nl from 5nl and been running at 13bb per 100 for a while and I'm having a lot of trouble adjusting to 10nl and I have some questions.....

My game plan at 5nl was:

-Be very nitty and play 13 vpip 10pfr and 4 AF
-My c-bet on flop is 75% and it's successful 54% of the time
-3bet 1.8% of the time
-Went to showdown 22.6% and won 48.9%
-get it all in against short-stackers with TPTK+
-value bet TPTK+ against fullstacks and fold when they show a lot of strength

What do I need to change at 10nl?

For some reason my vpip went down to 8 and pfr to 6 at 10nl...I get 3 bet a lot and don't really know how to deal with them. I also don't use a HUD...do I need to for 10nl? I'm running -2.5bb per 100 at 10nl.

Thanks for any help

Trust me, they're not 3betting light. Trust them when they squeeze or 3bet, they don't do it light. It's easy to get paranoid but just keep playing your game.

Yeah a HUD would be beneficial, but if you play your exact same game as 5NL, you'll survive, and then you just need to get a little better post-flop and you'll kill 10NL without a problem, these guys are so passive and weak it's untrue.

you dont need a hud if u make notes. especially if ur notes include things like whether people open limp etc (so u can identify the fish easily).

trying to stick to stats like cbetting x% of flops and raising x% of hands, isnt the bets idea imo because you need to try and adjust to the game and play exploitively, which will vary greatly with each table at which you sit.

also, dont start spazzing when people 3bet you more. if u dont tilt and do monkey stuff, then it wont affect you. just play your hands for value and dont get into a pre flop variance war

no big changes at 10nl compared to 5nl. play the same game. just a few more decent players(who still arent that troublesome).

you should definately loosen up preflop though. most taggy players at 10nl run at approx 19/16+. when you get 3bet a few times after you move up to a new limit you mind plays tricks on you that this limit is full of aggro regs. this is not true at 10nl. most players(even the regs) are pretty passive.

table selection at 10nl will make winning money here easier. look for tables full of passive fish that limp every hand. isolate them, cbet and profit.

i would also invset in a HUD if i were you but its not totally necessary

i'd really consider loosening your play up. I'm a consistent winner at NL 10 and NL 25 and i'm 19/17 ish

oh, and get a HUD (HEM is the best imo)

Knowing how to use your hud alone can turn you into a winning player

Yea I did get tilt from the 3betting and once called with pocket 9's and the villain had JJ.

I think the biggest problem for me seems to be that in 10nl people raise a lot and I would call with say AQ+ and PPs and get confused on the flop because I'm not the preflop aggressor. When they c-bet into say Kxx flop I'm not sure how to react.

I've been trying to loosen up but at HEM it says I lose money with suited connectors...

from what you describe you will probably be a winner in 10nl once you are used to it a bit more.. but i would think you are giving up too many spots by playing soo nitty.. when i last played 10nl i think i was somewhere around 28/25 or something and was a very decent winner...you probably dont need to play quite that many hands but 13 vpip is too nitty and will not work when you move up further.

the other thing that i thought when i read your OP was that your play appears to be very stagnant and mechanical, leaving no room to adjust. you cant just follow a set of guidelines and win.. it doesnt really work that way (actually it might work up to 25nl or so, but you will have to be able to switch your play according to villain when you move up)

in either case GL sir

Watch how they react when someone else calls their Cbet. You'll be suprised how many people shut down when they get called and will fold to any bet on the turn.

you just need a little time to adjust on NL10.
Everyone need time to adjust him self when he go up with limits.

Just keep play the same and you will beat nl10, and when you come to nl25+ you will need to enlarge your range.

Also HUD can give you information in a second, what kind of player your opponent is.
Hud is very useful when you play more tables, you don't need to observe everyone, hud do that for you and if opponent do some interesting move you write that in notes.

I'm not sure how to enlarge my range. Do I need to play random cards like unsuited connectors and Axs cards more? I always followed by the principle that second best hands don't win

So if someone raises and I call with AQo and the board comes K32 rainbow and PF aggressor c-bets I just call and then bet on any random card on the turn if he checks? Isn't that bluffing?

6max:
I'm currently beating 10nl for 20bb/100 over 7000 hands. Not a big sample but its my third time through and I've 10nl beat the other 2 times as well. I'm rebuilding my roll for 25nl.

Compared to 5nl:
-you'll actually find a tag or 2 sitting at your table. Usually not that good though.
-a few less loose passives and a few more ultra nits

I find it very useful to have a hud since i 9-table. But mainly keep track of:
-loose-passives
-tags
-who cbets too much (usually tags)
-preflop raise too much (usually tags)

I think you should be 3betting more. My % is 5.1 and I think I could be diong it a little more. I find that people at 10nl and 5nl have premium hands when they 3bet. Also when we 3bet, most of the time they will fold or call when they are light, and a small % of the time will 4bet and thats when we fold.

I feel the baluga therom works well at 10nl. Pretty much value bet until you get raised.

The thing about using a hud that i find most useful is looking at my own game. I look at what position and what hands i am losing the most money with. Then i go on 2+2 and search for those types of hands/situations and read how other people play them, usually look for comments from respected player, and my leak is plugged. Only 748 more leaks to go!

Biggest adjustment that I made b/w 5 and 10NL was not stacking off nearly as lightly, and stealing blinds a ton more.

-Technically bluffing is when you bet to make a better hand fold. In this case you don't know that you're making a better hand fold.

-You're not betting the turn all the time here. If you find a villain is cbetting too much, the next step is to look at what they do on the turn. Not just against you: try to get most of your reads when your not in the hand. But if villain is shutting down on the turn often enough, you could probably pull that line profitably.

-no need to play unsuited connectors at 10nl. I play 14/12 and beat the level fine. Make sure you're open raising pp's at least from mp and better. It also depends on how many hands you're playing. i can play 1 of my 9 tables at 8/7 but the others will be much higher.

make sure you're getting enough hands in before you get worried. I try to get at least 600 hands each day that i play.

As far as getting 3bet, I'm calling IP or OOP with as low as AQ and TT as long as its heads up. The question is, who is 3betting you. Just fold the rest and move on.

Thanks everyone for the advice. I actually applied everything that's been said. I started to use HUD, loosened up to 19vpip, floated a little more, and as a result I'm up to 5bb per 100 lol feels good.